Brake upgrade question

[300rem7]

Does anyone know if we have the 336mm or 350mm rotors? Or what drives the different sizes?

I have a 2023 402a with the tow package.

 

[Rabidtastic]

Show's both as options. ML1Z-2C026-C lists for "light/medium duty" and ML3Z-2C026-C lists as "heavy duty" so I'd imagine the tow pack is the deciding factor. Oddly enough the Raptors run the 336x20 not the 350x24's.

Fronts are the same (ML1Z-1125-D) across the board as far as I can tell.

 

[hotrodmex]

Or what drives the different sizes?

Max Tow option. It's specific to the 3/4 float axle.

 

[Sully]

I've never thought of bigger brakes on a truck but man this thing needs it.
Since there's basically no engine braking on the 3.5 I find I'm riding the brakes in traffic alot as it just doesn't slow down between lights, almost feels like it picks up speed when off the gas like a curling rock, or my 13 3/4 Cummins on ice , lol

 

[Duetin]

I've never thought of bigger brakes on a truck but man this thing needs it.
Since there's basically no engine braking on the 3.5 I find I'm riding the brakes in traffic alot as it just doesn't slow down between lights, almost feels like it picks up speed when off the gas like a curling rock, or my 13 3/4 Cummins on ice , lol

Huh…I feel the complete opposite lol. My 22 gmc 1500 truck from work is exactly what you described though.

 

[Escape Hatch]

I've never thought of bigger brakes on a truck but man this thing needs it.
Since there's basically no engine braking on the 3.5 I find I'm riding the brakes in traffic alot as it just doesn't slow down between lights, almost feels like it picks up speed when off the gas like a curling rock, or my 13 3/4 Cummins on ice , lol

Add bigger heavier tires and items that capture the wind. Mine slows down well enough on its own now, haha.

 

[CAMDENN]

A more aggressive brake pad might help.

 

[300rem7]

I have good luck with the Powerstop brakes in the passed with my Jeeps and Tacomas. I am planning to upgrade the brakes because of the larger wheels and tires and other stuff.

 

[Cranbery]

This is the kit I'm going to put in once my pads go in about 10k miles. With the tune and all the mods the stopping power just isn't there with the stock setup.

Amazon.com

 

[Escape Hatch]

This is the kit I'm going to put in once my pads go in about 10k miles. With the tune and all the mods the stopping power just isn't there with the stock setup.

Amazon.com

Not sure the rotors are going to make a difference. Why not just get more aggressive pads?

 

[Cranbery]

Not sure the rotors are going to make a difference. Why not just get more aggressive pads?

Those are more aggressive pads, in addition to the rotors.

 

[Escape Hatch]

Those are more aggressive pads, in addition to the rotors.

Perhaps I wasn't clear, what I meant to ask was why not get more aggressive pads with your current rotors? Will the slots and ports on those rotors be necessary for heat transfer? Unless the rotors you are looking at are larger than stock you will lose some contact patch versus OEM. Don't get me wrong, aestheticaly they look better but curious.

 

[CAMDENN]

The bad thing about any and all drilled through rotors is that over time, they’ll start to crack at many of the drilled out locations and the veins do a perfect job of cooling the rotors.

The slots are all that are needed to actually scrape the pad and to allow the gas that is produced by the pad and rotor surface to escape.

 

[Rabidtastic]

The bad thing about any and all drilled through rotors is that over time, they’ll start to crack at many of the drilled out locations and the veins do a perfect job of cooling the rotors.

The slots are all that are needed to actually scrape the pad and to allow the gas that is produced by the pad and rotor surface to escape.

This. Go slotted if anything...material tech these days has turned out some excellent pad tech. Prob about like the 40 vs 9 debate at this point lol.

I wonder if slots would allow offroad junk in to contaminate the pads and potentially bugger it and/or rotor

 

[Cranbery]

Perhaps I wasn't clear, what I meant to ask was why not get more aggressive pads with your current rotors? Will the slots and ports on those rotors be necessary for heat transfer? Unless the rotors you are looking at are larger than stock you will lose some contact patch versus OEM. Don't get me wrong, aestheticaly they look better but curious.

Considered it, didn't find too many great options. Any suggestions? And for the rotors part of it is definitely aesthetic, and I'm sure they do alleviate heating - don't think any of the performance mods are "necessary" most of the time lol. Just incremental increases.

 

[b-real]

You wont notice any performance gains from changing rotors, especially if you go slotted or drilled. Slotted/drilled rotors are not recommended for towing. If you dont tow, and you have wheels that actually allow view of the rotors, and you like the looks, then fine, but it will be purely aesthetic.

Ever notice that F1 and Nascar rotors are not slotted or drilled?

 

[Rabidtastic]

They don't need it...my coke bottle has more displacement

 

[Escape Hatch]

Considered it, didn't find too many great options. Any suggestions? And for the rotors part of it is definitely aesthetic, and I'm sure they do alleviate heating - don't think any of the performance mods are "necessary" most of the time lol. Just incremental increases.

Plenty of aggressive pads out there. EBC has varying degrees of aggressiveness but red are recommended for towing and off-road, oversized tires, and lifted suspension. Some hate EBC, some like them, I had no issues with them in my 500 hp GTI.

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[Cranbery]

Plenty of aggressive pads out there. EBC has varying degrees of aggressiveness but red are recommended for towing and off-road, oversized tires, and lifted suspension. Some hate EBC, some like them, I had no issues with them in my 500 hp GTI.

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EBC Brakes are the leading online brake company offering brakes, pads, discs, rotors for automotive, motorcycle, mountain bike & racing - EBC Brake Pad & Disc Selector Tool

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Doesn't look like they make sets for a gen14 f150. I'll keep a look out. In any case still got another 10-15k to go.

 

[Escape Hatch]

Doesn't look like they make sets for a gen14 f150. I'll keep a look out. In any case still got another 10-15k to go.

I found them.

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