Catch cans

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Is anyone using these anymore and do you think it’s needed or helps? I know back in day everyone was saying you should use them on ecoboost engines but that was earlier gen engines

 

[Iconic5.0]

I just bought one and haven’t received it yet.

I was wondering the same thing. I certainly don’t think it will hurt anything if it’s functioning correctly (not blocking the PCV)

It’s hard to get a good straight answer on it. Some swear by them and others say it’s a waste of money.

 

[PNWTremor]

Is anyone using these anymore and do you think it’s needed or helps? I know back in day everyone was saying you should use them on ecoboost engines but that was earlier gen engines

I have a J&L catch can in my 5.0. Put it on with 400 miles on the od. No engine is immune from blow-by, and no modern engine is sold without EGR.

3.5 EB: more necessary. A lot of people have found oil in their inner coolers down the line. That decreases cooling efficiency and air volume.

5.0: Not as necessary. I’ve empted the holding resevoir a dozen times and it’s always got dirty oil in it, but it’s nice to know I’m saving my intake. The 5.0 has port and direct injection, so I’m not worried about carbon buildup on the intake valvesz

TLDR; It can’t hurt to put one on and it shouldn’t void you warranty. It’s up to you whether it’s worth investing in or not.

 

[Rabidtastic]

I have a J&L catch can in my 5.0. Put it on with 400 miles on the od. No engine is immune from blow-by, and no modern engine is sold without EGR.

3.5 EB: more necessary. A lot of people have found oil in their inner coolers down the line. That decreases cooling efficiency and air volume.

5.0: Not as necessary. I’ve empted the holding resevoir a dozen times and it’s always got dirty oil in it, but it’s nice to know I’m saving my intake.

TLDR; It can’t hurt to put one on and it shouldn’t void you warranty. It’s up to you whether it’s worth investing in or not.

Bingo. 5.0 less of a thing than the EBs since we have an intercooler that tends to catch all that shit

I've had one on my EB for ~7k and empty it once in a blue moon. It catches shit I'd rather not have condensing in my charge cooler.

 

[Aandrews109]

Ran one on my ‘19 Raptor as well as my ‘23 Tremor. Had some problems with oil on the rear manifold sensor prior to install on the Raptor. No residue buildup after install.
Don’t get as much oil in the one on the Tremor, but it’s enough that I’d rather not have it going into intake. Getting 1 to 2 ounces at 5K oil changes.

 

[Iconic5.0]

FYI Ford Performance offers one and I read somewhere it’s covered under warranty if a Ford tech installs it. Not sure how true that is though. I called my dealer and they said it would only void warranty if it was found to be the direct cause of any issues.

 

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I have a J&L catch can in my 5.0. Put it on with 400 miles on the od. No engine is immune from blow-by, and no modern engine is sold without EGR.

3.5 EB: more necessary. A lot of people have found oil in their inner coolers down the line. That decreases cooling efficiency and air volume.

5.0: Not as necessary. I’ve empted the holding resevoir a dozen times and it’s always got dirty oil in it, but it’s nice to know I’m saving my intake. The 5.0 has port and direct injection, so I’m not worried about carbon buildup on the intake valvesz

TLDR; It can’t hurt to put one on and it shouldn’t void you warranty. It’s up to you whether it’s worth investing in or not.

When I installed my turbo smart bov I noticed some oil in hose on passenger side of intercooler

 

[112]

FYI Ford Performance offers one and I read somewhere it’s covered under warranty if a Ford tech installs it. Not sure how true that is though. I called my dealer and they said it would only void warranty if it was found to be the direct cause of any issues.

I will look that up unless you by chance have link or part number

 

[Rabidtastic]

I will look that up unless you by chance have link or part number

2021-2023 F-150 3.5L ECOBOOST AIR/OIL SEPARATOR KIT

2021-2023 F-150 3.5L ECOBOOST AIR/OIL SEPARATOR KIT|Ford Performance Parts

performanceparts.ford.com

Not really sure how theirs works...doesn't look like something you can drain which seems odd.

 

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2021-2023 F-150 3.5L ECOBOOST AIR/OIL SEPARATOR KIT

2021-2023 F-150 3.5L ECOBOOST AIR/OIL SEPARATOR KIT|Ford Performance Parts

performanceparts.ford.com

Not really sure how theirs works...doesn't look like something you can drain which seems odd.

I think I’m going to buy it!

 

[Aandrews109]

2021-2023 F-150 3.5L ECOBOOST AIR/OIL SEPARATOR KIT

2021-2023 F-150 3.5L ECOBOOST AIR/OIL SEPARATOR KIT|Ford Performance Parts

performanceparts.ford.com

Not really sure how theirs works...doesn't look like something you can drain which seems odd.

Haven’t looked at the Ford Unit until today. I’m with you on the not sure how you would drain it. Mine is a JLT Passenger’s side unit and it’s really simple to install and drain.
Someone also mentioned Warranty Issues. Both my Raptor and Tremor have been to ford for service and there’s been no issues with warranty so far.

 

[DeeDah]

Is anyone using these anymore and do you think it’s needed or helps? I know back in day everyone was saying you should use them on ecoboost engines but that was earlier gen engines

I bought 1 and it does what it's supposed to. That's the best response I can give. Anything to help my truck run better is a win

 

[CAMDENN]

FYI Ford Performance offers one and I read somewhere it’s covered under warranty if a Ford tech installs it. Not sure how true that is though. I called my dealer and they said it would only void warranty if it was found to be the direct cause of any issues.

Unless something has changed, the FPP version isn’t for the 14th gen F150’s.

 

[CAMDENN]

Is anyone using these anymore and do you think it’s needed or helps? I know back in day everyone was saying you should use them on ecoboost engines but that was earlier gen engines

Regardless of the generation engine, they definitely won’t hurt.
Cheap insurance.
I’m partial to the dual UPR setup on my 5.0 TREMOR.

 

[112]

Regardless of the generation engine, they definitely won’t hurt.
Cheap insurance.
I’m partial to the dual UPR setup on my 5.0 TREMOR.

Thank you
I wasn’t sure if enhancements have been made eliminating the need for this

 

[MikeJ19]

I put a UPR catch can on my 3.5. I think it’s worth the investment. Just did an oil change last Saturday. 2,600 miles it caught this much.

 

[l1tech]

No engine is immune from blow-by, and no modern engine is sold without EGR.

If you have so much blow by that a catch can is necessary then you have bigger problems. I don't see the argument for the necessity of a catch can because of an egr system.

I've been professionally wrenching for the better part of 35 years and I can honestly say that I have never once seen an engine failure or a driveability issue that was the result of not having a catch can but I have seen driveability issues that were the result of having a catch can installed. If this was that big of an issue you can bet that the mfgs would be including them on the vehicles that they produce. I'll admit I bought into the hype once. I had a tuned 2021 Explorer ST and put one on. In the 15,000 miles that I ran with it if I got 1/2 an ounce of oil out of it I'd be surprised. Who knows maybe over the long haul it would have caught more but it is really causing an issue on what is being allowed through? If anything I can see where catch cans would be more beneficial to old vehicles but not modern day (in the last 25 years) engines.

Catch cans are like CAI's, people think they need them but they don't really do anything other than make your wallet lighter and make you think something good is happening.

 

[Brad99superd]

I have had a JLT on my 18 Explorer sport with the 3.5EB since about 20K, I"m at 105k now and over the summer I get very little out of it. Winter however I get quite a bit and it looks exactly like like my coffee with creamer. (summer is very little and black) I have been thinking about it on the tremor (3.5) but if I'm correct, after 2018 they added the port injection along with the direct injection and it is not as important anymore? Is that true? That said, I put on on the Explorer because I was freaking that I needed one and I think it's the first year of the port injection, it's done what it's supposed to but it's not getting a ton out of it. I am starting to agree, pretty sure the manufacture would have installed them if they were necessary I don't know. I'm not mad I installed it and have the maintain it, but it is an added hassell I guess. I kind of just haven't made it a priority on the Tremor, I'm at 30,000mi now.

 

[Escape Hatch]

If you have so much blow by that a catch can is necessary then you have bigger problems. I don't see the argument for the necessity of a catch can because of an egr system.

I've been professionally wrenching for the better part of 35 years and I can honestly say that I have never once seen an engine failure or a driveability issue that was the result of not having a catch can but I have seen driveability issues that were the result of having a catch can installed. If this was that big of an issue you can bet that the mfgs would be including them on the vehicles that they produce. I'll admit I bought into the hype once. I had a tuned 2021 Explorer ST and put one on. In the 15,000 miles that I ran with it if I got 1/2 an ounce of oil out of it I'd be surprised. Who knows maybe over the long haul it would have caught more but it is really causing an issue on what is being allowed through? If anything I can see where catch cans would be more beneficial to old vehicles but not modern day (in the last 25 years) engines.

Catch cans are like CAI's, people think they need them but they don't really do anything other than make your wallet lighter and make you think something good is happening.

I would be curious, a motor with one and one without after 100k miles. Bore scope the intake valves and see if there is much of a difference, if any. Though we cannot ensure same oil/fuel used, same driving conditions or driving habits, it is likely the closest we can get. Anecdotally I have one on my 3.5 Tremor and one on my wife's 22 Aviator and both collect enough to give me pause. Also, the manufacturer caring enough to put one on? I disagree, they only care about the duration of their power train warranty, let's not kid ourselves here.

 

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If you have so much blow by that a catch can is necessary then you have bigger problems. I don't see the argument for the necessity of a catch can because of an egr system.

I've been professionally wrenching for the better part of 35 years and I can honestly say that I have never once seen an engine failure or a driveability issue that was the result of not having a catch can but I have seen driveability issues that were the result of having a catch can installed. If this was that big of an issue you can bet that the mfgs would be including them on the vehicles that they produce. I'll admit I bought into the hype once. I had a tuned 2021 Explorer ST and put one on. In the 15,000 miles that I ran with it if I got 1/2 an ounce of oil out of it I'd be surprised. Who knows maybe over the long haul it would have caught more but it is really causing an issue on what is being allowed through? If anything I can see where catch cans would be more beneficial to old vehicles but not modern day (in the last 25 years) engines.

Catch cans are like CAI's, people think they need them but they don't really do anything other than make your wallet lighter and make you think something good is happening.

The interesting thing is ford now sells them. They are really expensive vs aftermarket as they are priced at $600 vs $170 for JL