Leveling kit - Squatting when towing - Bad?

[PokeAndRun]

I want to get a leveling kit for the front but I still want to be able to tow. Probably wouldn't tow anything over 7k lbs and the truck has the trailer tow package. I won't tow that often but just some throughout the year.

So of course when I tow, the truck will squat in the rear. Other than not looking that great while towing is there anything wrong or somehow it could cause damage to the truck? I wouldn't think so but I figured I'd ask.

 

[yank27]

 

[yank27]

I put a 2-inch leveling kit on so I still have a 1 in rake and the timbren helps with the squat.

 

[Cranbery]

I put a 2-inch leveling kit on so I still have a 1 in rake and the timbren helps with the squat.

How much was it with pants and labor if you don't mind me asking? Did it increase the overall height of the truck or just the front? Fit 34s or 35s now with no rub?

 

[yank27]

I got it also with the rear well liner covers and everything came to $850 installed. Still looking for rims and tires but I live in Western New York so I'm probably not going to put them on till spring

 

[yank27]

No it just brought up the front by 2 in

 

[Yeti]

I want to get a leveling kit for the front but I still want to be able to tow. Probably wouldn't tow anything over 7k lbs and the truck has the trailer tow package. I won't tow that often but just some throughout the year.

So of course when I tow, the truck will squat in the rear. Other than not looking that great while towing is there anything wrong or somehow it could cause damage to the truck? I wouldn't think so but I figured I'd ask.

Generically, when the rear end is drooping, you have less traction at the front wheels. So steering and braking take a hit.
That is why manufacturers of medium duty trucks generally recommend a weight distribution hitch above 5000 pounds trailer weight.

Now with that generality out of the way, a one inch squat is about as much as you want to play with. Much more than that and the weight of your truck starts to shift rearward exponentially causing unsafe conditions.

 

[Cranbery]

Generically, when the rear end is drooping, you have less traction at the front wheels. So steering and braking take a hit.
That is why manufacturers of medium duty trucks generally recommend a weight distribution hitch above 5000 pounds trailer weight.

Now with that generality out of the way, a one inch squat is about as much as you want to play with. Much more than that and the weight of your truck starts to shift rearward exponentially causing unsafe conditions.

So if you have a 2 inch level kit when the stock on the Tremor is a 4" rake, that leaves you 2" of squat squat play with? If you reinforce the suspension with something to reduce squat, do you think you'd be able to tow the max 10k lbs with a 2" level? (Safely)

 

[PokeAndRun]

Generically, when the rear end is drooping, you have less traction at the front wheels. So steering and braking take a hit.
That is why manufacturers of medium duty trucks generally recommend a weight distribution hitch above 5000 pounds trailer weight.

Now with that generality out of the way, a one inch squat is about as much as you want to play with. Much more than that and the weight of your truck starts to shift rearward exponentially causing unsafe conditions.

Well that makes sense. I might just go with a 2" leveling kit like @yank27 mentioned and once I start towing see how things look.

 

[JordanB7]

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Is that this kit?

 

[PokeAndRun]

I put a 2-inch leveling kit on so I still have a 1 in rake and the timbren helps with the squat.

Did you feel any change in the ride comfort with that setup?

 

[Yeti]

So if you have a 2 inch level kit when the stock on the Tremor is a 4" rake, that leaves you 2" of squat squat play with? If you reinforce the suspension with something to reduce squat, do you think you'd be able to tow the max 10k lbs with a 2" level? (Safely)

I think I don't have enough information to say one way or the other but I have a 5 inch rake which is fine for my hot rod but not for my off road truck.

I'm shooting for an additional 2-3 inches of front lift and see is falcon or fox dsc helps my towing level. It will depend on what Deavers has to say.

 

[Cranbery]

I think I don't have enough information to say one way or the other but I have a 5 inch rake which is fine for my hot rod but not for my off road truck.

I'm shooting for an additional 2-3 inches of front lift and see is falcon or fox dsc helps my towing level. It will depend on what Deavers has to say.

I'm holding out on a level until there's good info on things like this - I want to be able to have it not have a ridiculous rake like you noted, also to fit some 34s or 35s, but I don't want to sacrifice safely towing the max weight.

Let us know what you end up doing on your build thread!

 

[BA73]

Here is a 5,000 lb trailer hooked up with a 12Klb WD hitch. I have the Tow Pkg. There was 1" of rake remaining, so she'd be nose high with a fixed 2" kit up front

I'm waiting for the 2021 Fox/Falcon shocks that are adjustable. They will be adjusted for level while towing, so It will be more like a 1" lift up front than a tru level, but it is the safe way to do it, will improve handling, and reduce body roll and porpoising.

 

[JordanB7]

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Did you have to have any sensors recalibrate or anything?

 

[PokeAndRun]

Here is a 5,000 lb trailer hooked up with a 12Klb WD hitch. I have the Tow Pkg. There was 1" of rake remaining, so she'd be nose high with a fixed 2" kit up frontView attachment 1324
I'm waiting for the 2021 Fox/Falcon shocks that are adjustable. They will be adjusted for level while towing, so It will be more like a 1" lift up front than a tru level, but it is the safe way to do it, will improve handling, and reduce body roll and porpoising.

Thanks for all the info. How is it towing the 5k lbs? Can you even tell it's towing anything?.... (besides looking at the mpg dropping.)

 

[BA73]

Towed just fine. When wet and loaded the trailer will roll down the road at ~5,800 lbs. Zero stress during acceleration or braking, to your point, can barley tell its back there. My only dislike, and the reason I will do a semi-level with adjustable shocks, she's bouncy as hell. Need to firm that up.

 

[yank27]

Did you feel any change in the ride comfort with that setup?

No very smooth. The front has a stock 1" lift and the rear a 4" so with the leveling kit it ended up being a 3" front 4" rear. With the Timbren SES really helps with the sag in the rear had them ony last truck. I carry 8,000 lbs trailer. With the squat the truck and trailer are completely level across.

 

[yank27]

Is that this kit?

Is that this kit?

Yes that is the kit I used..

 

[yank27]

Did you have to have any sensors recalibrate or anything?

I'm not sure what my buddy did he did all the work but I can definitely ask him if he had a recalibrate anything.