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TFL's 1000 mile update on '24 Tremor

Interesting but the headlight DOWNGRADE is absolutely a no go for me. Projector headlights are a must and I love the glare free (you guys were right) on dark rural highways at night.

More money, less capable. Seems like the future we are getting.
 
I thought 401A Tremor's have always had reflector LED's? 402A's get the projectors...
 
McCarthy said:
I thought 401A Tremor's have always had reflector LED's? 402A's get the projectors...
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Unless something changed or will change mid year, all 2024 TREMORS, regardless of the option package will have the same reflective LED headlights.

Perhaps Ford will include the superior dynamic LED projector headlights in the 402A package for the 2025 TREMOR.
 
CAMDENN said:
Unless something changed or will change mid year, all 2024 TREMORS, regardless of the option package will have the same reflective LED headlights.

Perhaps Ford will include the superior dynamic LED projector headlights in the 402A package for the 2025 TREMOR.
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Oh I see, so on 2024 402A's you get reflector LED's? That's quite the downgrade...
 
CAMDENN said:
Unless something changed or will change mid year, all 2024 TREMORS, regardless of the option package will have the same reflective LED headlights.

Perhaps Ford will include the superior dynamic LED projector headlights in the 402A package for the 2025 TREMOR.
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They likely wouldnt include it for free. The 402a package would probably go up some more to bring back something that used to be included.
 
I don't like how they crammed so many options into the 402A and now it's $80k. My '23 402A sticker for $72k (and I paid $68k) by skipping stuff like powered tailgate, 2kw pro power, B&O unleashed etc.
 
McCarthy said:
Oh I see, so on 2024 402A's you get reflector LED's? That's quite the downgrade...
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Correct and yes.
Many current 2024 owners weren’t happy about it but I suspect most either didn’t care or didn’t know about the better LED headlights.
 
CAMDENN said:
Correct and yes.
Many current 2024 owners weren’t happy about it but I suspect most either didn’t care or didn’t know about the better LED headlights.
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New tremor owners wouldnt know until they come here🤣
 
So, just finished reading the linked 1000 mile trip in the Tremor. One thing that stood out to me was his observation that the 5.0 seemed a little weak. Now, until my 23 Tremor, I have had only 5.0(and other V8 Ford motors prior to) F150's in the past and I loved them. I have not had one in the Tremor, but believe it would be fine powerwise. I have had two (a 23 and a 24) Tremors, both with the 3.5 EB. These are the only EB's I have owned, but I have to say I really like the torque. I do miss the sound of the 5.0. Anyhow, between my 23 and 24, I have noticed the following...driving in normal mode... the 23 3.5 seemed more powerful/responsive than the 24 in normal mode. Now, once in sport mode, the power is there and I feel no discernable difference between the 2. So, based on the author's statement and what I have noticed, I wonder if Ford made a change to the normal driving mode in order to extract a modicum of better gas mileage? I really haven't noticed any difference in mileage, but am still on my first tank. Or, maybe I am still subconsciously babying it since it is so new? Reading the article just has me wondering to myself.
 
tt4617 said:
So, just finished reading the linked 1000 mile trip in the Tremor. One thing that stood out to me was his observation that the 5.0 seemed a little weak. Now, until my 23 Tremor, I have had only 5.0(and other V8 Ford motors prior to) F150's in the past and I loved them. I have not had one in the Tremor, but believe it would be fine powerwise. I have had two (a 23 and a 24) Tremors, both with the 3.5 EB. These are the only EB's I have owned, but I have to say I really like the torque. I do miss the sound of the 5.0. Anyhow, between my 23 and 24, I have noticed the following...driving in normal mode... the 23 3.5 seemed more powerful/responsive than the 24 in normal mode. Now, once in sport mode, the power is there and I feel no discernable difference between the 2. So, based on the author's statement and what I have noticed, I wonder if Ford made a change to the normal driving mode in order to extract a modicum of better gas mileage? I really haven't noticed any difference in mileage, but am still on my first tank. Or, maybe I am still subconsciously babying it since it is so new? Reading the article just has me wondering to myself.
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Are the two trucks the same rear gear ratio?
 
tt4617 said:
So, just finished reading the linked 1000 mile trip in the Tremor. One thing that stood out to me was his observation that the 5.0 seemed a little weak. Now, until my 23 Tremor, I have had only 5.0(and other V8 Ford motors prior to) F150's in the past and I loved them. I have not had one in the Tremor, but believe it would be fine powerwise. I have had two (a 23 and a 24) Tremors, both with the 3.5 EB. These are the only EB's I have owned, but I have to say I really like the torque. I do miss the sound of the 5.0. Anyhow, between my 23 and 24, I have noticed the following...driving in normal mode... the 23 3.5 seemed more powerful/responsive than the 24 in normal mode. Now, once in sport mode, the power is there and I feel no discernable difference between the 2. So, based on the author's statement and what I have noticed, I wonder if Ford made a change to the normal driving mode in order to extract a modicum of better gas mileage? I really haven't noticed any difference in mileage, but am still on my first tank. Or, maybe I am still subconsciously babying it since it is so new? Reading the article just has me wondering to myself.
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Probably just the learning curve for the software in the new truck. I had to laugh at the comment that the 5.0 seemed weak, MotorTrend got a 5.8 second 0-60 time on the 2024 Tremor 5.0 (this exact same press truck TFL got). If you think a 5.8 second off road truck is weak I think you’ve lost some credibility on your opinion.

Realistically the delta here is MotorTrend tested it at sea level where the 5.0 thrives, and TFL truck is located up in Colorado where it’s down on power. You can’t judge any naturally aspirated engine on TFL unfortunately, you need to look elsewhere for a fair test on V8 motors.
 
Yes, I feel like you are exactly right. The more I drive mine, the better it feels....and yes, the 5.0 is a beast. Always has been.
 
TexasTea said:
Interesting but the headlight DOWNGRADE is absolutely a no go for me. Projector headlights are a must and I love the glare free (you guys were right) on dark rural highways at night.

More money, less capable. Seems like the future we are getting.
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I haven't tried the projector LEDs on the 402a, but the 401a LEDs work great for me and actually seem to help me see ditches pretty well. They're even better than the projector LEDs I've had in the past on other vehicles. Almost all my driving is on rural two-lane highways and lots of wildlife here (Rockies). Have never felt like the headlights were lacking at night. Just my 0.02. I do think the projectors look much nicer however.
 
JM150 said:
Probably just the learning curve for the software in the new truck. I had to laugh at the comment that the 5.0 seemed weak, MotorTrend got a 5.8 second 0-60 time on the 2024 Tremor 5.0 (this exact same press truck TFL got). If you think a 5.8 second off road truck is weak I think you’ve lost some credibility on your opinion.

Realistically the delta here is MotorTrend tested it at sea level where the 5.0 thrives, and TFL truck is located up in Colorado where it’s down on power. You can’t judge any naturally aspirated engine on TFL unfortunately, you need to look elsewhere for a fair test on V8 motors.
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Love the sound of the 5.0 but as you said, power loss at elevation. I drive almost exclusively at 4000-5000 ft and regularly over 10k (bighorn mountains). I'm curious as to how the 5.0 would perform at that elevation. One figure I've read is 3% power loss every 1k ft for a N/A motor. Won't matter somewhere like Florida but in the mountains/high deserts out here in the West it's a real consideration.
 
freewayman said:
Love the sound of the 5.0 but as you said, power loss at elevation. I drive almost exclusively at 4000-5000 ft and regularly over 10k (bighorn mountains). I'm curious as to how the 5.0 would perform at that elevation. One figure I've read is 3% power loss every 1k ft for a N/A motor. Won't matter somewhere like Florida but in the mountains/high deserts out here in the West it's a real consideration.
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I tow over a number of high elevation passes every year, I've had a couple 5.0l trucks and a bunch of 3.5l f150's and I always regret the 5.0 the first time I haul over a pass... 10k feet = approx 30% reduction in power. That's MASSIVE.
 
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