Used Tremors from Canada

[a_real_pos]

Hi everyone, I just registered so am new here. I am looking at purchasing a 2023 or 2024 F150 Tremor. Most of the ones I see for sale that are low mileage were originally sold in Ontario. I'm curious if there is something I should be wary of here? Also, many (all?) of them were fleet vehicles, but no service history when the dealer pulls up the VIN. So while it looks good on the surface, I'm a little hesitant, but very excited to be part of the club soon! Thanks for any advice!

 

[SPOCI]

I bought my 22 in April of 2024 in Washington and the carfax shows it was sold in Canada originally and then traded in to the dealer I bought it from. There was little history in Canada, so I bought the extended warranty to cover myself. I have had no problems and have put about 20K on the truck so far.

 

[GREYWOLF]

Hey, Canadian here who has sold a bunch of vehicles to folks in the USA. I’m originally from Ontario, lived just north of you in Saskatchewan, and currently in Alberta. I recommend avoiding Ontario because of the use of salt on the roads as well as the distance from your location. Saskatchewan trucks are likely okay but have probably seen a LOT of gravel roads. Therefore, I would look at Alberta because we don’t use salt (we use rocks lol) and the vast majority of our roads are paved. Seriously though, we use rocks on our roads; Alberta has the highest windshield replacement rate of any area in North America.

Re: fleet Tremors — I’ve never heard of that before. I’m not saying it hasn’t happened, but if this information is coming back in the vehicle history, I’m willing to bet it was a manager at a dealership. Fleet trucks are the cheapest spec XTs and XLTs. lol

If there’s anything specific you’d like to know, feel free to ask.

 

[zx12-iowa]

Technically the truck is grey market and warranty is voidable by ford. Canadian truck are also lower value in part for this reason.

 

[CAMDENN]

Hi everyone, I just registered so am new here. I am looking at purchasing a 2023 or 2024 F150 Tremor. Most of the ones I see for sale that are low mileage were originally sold in Ontario. I'm curious if there is something I should be wary of here? Also, many (all?) of them were fleet vehicles, but no service history when the dealer pulls up the VIN. So while it looks good on the surface, I'm a little hesitant, but very excited to be part of the club soon! Thanks for any advice!

Don’t do it.
Stick with a used TREMOR from the US and preferably one from a part of the country that doesn’t get real winter weather.

The 2023’s with the 402A package is what you should be looking for and is a better value than a 2024 with the 402A package.

 

[a_real_pos]

Technically the truck is grey market and warranty is voidable by ford. Canadian truck are also lower value in part for this reason.

Thanks for that info. I reached out directly to Ford US and Ford Canada to check into this. Ford US said that all Ford US dealers that sell that vehicle type (so they sell F150s or Expeditions etc), they must honor the new vehicle limited warranty. I was concerned about it, and your comment made me look into it, so I definitely appreciate it. I can post the chat if anyone is interested in the details.

 

[a_real_pos]

Hey, Canadian here who has sold a bunch of vehicles to folks in the USA. I’m originally from Ontario, lived just north of you in Saskatchewan, and currently in Alberta. I recommend avoiding Ontario because of the use of salt on the roads as well as the distance from your location. Saskatchewan trucks are likely okay but have probably seen a LOT of gravel roads. Therefore, I would look at Alberta because we don’t use salt (we use rocks lol) and the vast majority of our roads are paved. Seriously though, we use rocks on our roads; Alberta has the highest windshield replacement rate of any area in North America.

Re: fleet Tremors — I’ve never heard of that before. I’m not saying it hasn’t happened, but if this information is coming back in the vehicle history, I’m willing to bet it was a manager at a dealership. Fleet trucks are the cheapest spec XTs and XLTs. lol

If there’s anything specific you’d like to know, feel free to ask.

It only has 9,000 miles (11,000 km for you, haha), so I think that the one winter in Ontario maybe won't deter me. I live in North Dakota, so gravel roads (new windshields) and winter weather are just part of life. I hadn't thought of a dealership manager, but yeah that definitely makes sense. I was able to get the warranty and recall information on it from Ford Canada chat, so I'm feeling pretty good about it. Thanks for the information.

 

[GREYWOLF]

It only has 9,000 miles (11,000 km for you, haha), so I think that the one winter in Ontario maybe won't deter me. I live in North Dakota, so gravel roads (new windshields) and winter weather are just part of life. I hadn't thought of a dealership manager, but yeah that definitely makes sense. I was able to get the warranty and recall information on it from Ford Canada chat, so I'm feeling pretty good about it. Thanks for the information.

Hey, me again. This is honestly rather embarrassing, but I simply assumed the vehicle was located in southern Ontario along Lake Ontario. However, I lived all across Ontario including northern Ontario for years and some places don’t really use that much salt at all. So, may I ask which city this vehicle is located in and I can give you a better idea of what sort of winters they have and what kind of salt use?

 

[a_real_pos]

Hey, me again. This is honestly rather embarrassing, but I simply assumed the vehicle was located in southern Ontario along Lake Ontario. However, I lived all across Ontario including northern Ontario for years and some places don’t really use that much salt at all. So, may I ask which city this vehicle is located in and I can give you a better idea of what sort of winters they have and what kind of salt use?

Hey no worries. It was in the Hamilton ON and Guelph ON area, so right around Toronto, so your assumption was correct.

 

[GREYWOLF]

Hey no worries. It was in the Hamilton ON and Guelph ON area, so right around Toronto, so your assumption was correct.

Gotcha. Well, the good news here is I don’t think either truck has seen a gravel road in its life. lol But yes, there is certainly salt use on the roads there. That said, southern Ontario has a strong culture for applying rust-coatings but all bets are off if this was a dealership manager.

Honestly, I understand where the other person is coming from who is discouraging the purchase, but with only one winter season I think you’re in good shape. Heck, my truck came from an area slightly inland from the coastal area of British Columbia. It was there for 7-years and doesn’t have any abnormal amount of rust.

 

[a_real_pos]

Gotcha. Well, the good news here is I don’t think either truck has seen a gravel road in its life. lol But yes, there is certainly salt use on the roads there. That said, southern Ontario has a strong culture for applying rust-coatings but all bets are off if this was a dealership manager.

Honestly, I understand where the other person is coming from who is discouraging the purchase, but with only one winter season I think you’re in good shape. Heck, my truck came from an area slightly inland from the coastal area of British Columbia. It was there for 7-years and doesn’t have any abnormal amount of rust.

Yeah I can see both sides. Looking at the dates on the CarFax, it went to the dealer in November 2024, and was exported to the US by April of 2025. Maybe I'm just trying to justify it to myself, but yeah that short window seems pretty innocuous. I appreciate all the input from everyone. What an awesome group!

 

[GREYWOLF]

So the vehicle is already in the USA? If so, this makes your life even easier.

Also, you seem like the kind of guy who’s very diligent (which is awesome). You could always look at the average DOM for an F150 at that time, apply a Christmas/New Years factor, and then deduct those days from the Nov-April timeline.

 

[zx12-iowa]

Thanks for that info. I reached out directly to Ford US and Ford Canada to check into this. Ford US said that all Ford US dealers that sell that vehicle type (so they sell F150s or Expeditions etc), they must honor the new vehicle limited warranty. I was concerned about it, and your comment made me look into it, so I definitely appreciate it. I can post the chat if anyone is interested in the details.

Yes – if you could post a chat, it would be terrific.

Background: I’m an attorney and handled a matter brought by an attorney General whereby a dealership was selling “gray market vehicles”. Warrantees were one of the main issues in the matter and a consent order was issued. I realize that manufacturers/dealers and attorney generals may differ. However, buying a vehicle imported does (pursuant to the terms of the warranty) have the potential to allow the manufacturer to deny a warranty. The other caution I offer is that even though you have a chat, you don’t know if that individual is authorized to represent and bind a corporation and amend warranty terms. They truly understand that you literally have to look at the company’s corporate governance materials as that would control and litigation.

 

[Dunc]

From Ontario, picked up my Tremor this spring. I had to sign a ford agreement not to export to the US for at least 6 months and 15000km.
402 package worked out to 61,500 usd. brand new.
So flipping is probably easy money for those that can do this stuff

 

[Usmarine0352]

Purchased a 2022 with 12K miles back in December. Carfax showed owner took care of vehicle with early oil changes and even undercoated the truck. Under Ford warranty and no issues. Even purchased the Ford extended warranty. Happy with purchase. No regrets.

 

[Cub Driver]

My 23 was originally sold into Canada and I purchased it in the US. It's not had any issues other than a headlight problem and Ford shows the truck under full warranty. It came out of Ontario and there is no significant corrosion that's any different than western NY where I live.
I have also had other GM vehicles that originated in Canada and no issues there either.
Once they become our 51st State it won't be an issue

 

[b-real]

2 things to note: there are many used car dealerships that deal specifically in importing vehicles from Canada. The exchange rate makes it favorable to do so. I can name 3 used truck dealerships in Salt Lake alone that deal exclusively this way. I have bought 2 trucks from them in the past with zero issues. Warranty from a Ford originally sold in Canada is still valid in the US. As for Fleet trucks, and vehicle sold through the Pro (originally called Fleet) side of a dealership and not through the retail side will be marked as Fleet. It can be any vehicle and any trim. That vehicle rolls off the same assembly line and is no different. As for what condition a "fleet" vehicle is in, that all depends on what company had it, what they used it for, and how the driver treated it. We sell off our fleet vehicles at work (we dont buy Tremors for the fleet even though the employees would love it, but we have done a Lariat here and there). When we sell them off we offer them to our own employees first. They all know who drove what truck, and they know which vehicles are a good deal because of who drove it and how they took care of it, and which ones to avoid.

If the truck in question looks good in person and drives nice and appears to be in overall good condition I would not hesitate just because it came from Canada.

 

[Fordever]

I don’t understand all the salt comments. These trucks are aluminum. The chassis is coated (or at least mine is and I purchased new). I live in a very salty Canada area (NL). When I traded my 2019 Lariat after 5 years of use, there were absolutely no issues with the vehicle, physically, mechanically or electricity/electronically. I would be more concerned about how it was used more than where it was used. Anyway, that’s my 2¢ for what it’s worth.

 

[Catorce]

Unless paying cash, a new leftover unsold 2024 may be the way to go once you figure interest rates and total cost for life of loan. 2024’s are out there and most have incentive interest rates… 2.9 for a 60 month loan on a new 69k truck may be less (total cost) than a used one for 62k at 11%…

 

[Nordicbeast]

Yes – if you could post a chat, it would be terrific.

Background: I’m an attorney and handled a matter brought by an attorney General whereby a dealership was selling “gray market vehicles”. Warrantees were one of the main issues in the matter and a consent order was issued. I realize that manufacturers/dealers and attorney generals may differ. However, buying a vehicle imported does (pursuant to the terms of the warranty) have the potential to allow the manufacturer to deny a warranty. The other caution I offer is that even though you have a chat, you don’t know if that individual is authorized to represent and bind a corporation and amend warranty terms. They truly understand that you literally have to look at the company’s corporate governance materials as that would control and litigation.

Genuine question....What constitutes a "grey market" vehicle? If it's sold outside Ford dealer channels? That would apply to literally tens of thousands of used, privately sold vehicles that cross the border regularly. Also, OE Ford manufacturer warranties are valid throughout North America for vehicles sold within North America and is transferable (as stated in the warranty section of the owner's manual), so on what grounds could Ford deny warranty (apart from the typical clauses, i.e. fleet vehicle, vehicle modified for competitive racing, etc)?