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Just saw my first one in person and it didn’t emotionally go the way I thought it would. I expected it to push me towards the truck I have on order. I’m not sure I can let go of my Raptor. 🤬🤔

I need to sleep on things.
 
Just saw my first one in person and it didn’t emotionally go the way I thought it would. I expected it to push me towards the truck I have on order. I’m not sure I can let go of my Raptor. 🤬🤔

I need to sleep on things.
Totally different animals.
 
Totally different animals.
Completely agree. The Tremor would be a more practical truck for me and even more useable off-road for my area. The snob in me is hung up on the lack of aggressiveness and small fitment/refinement details. They have a Gen 2 Raptor parked next to it, so I was able to spend a lot of time doing comparisons.
 
That’s disappointing. I’ve never seen one in the wild yet. I hate to hear it’s not all you hoped it would be. I hope I don’t have that same problem.
 
Totally different animals.
100% Agree. I think if you are expecting a Raptor you are going to be disappointed. What I think the Tremor does well is strike a good balance between the Raptor and a regularish F150. The Termor is a little functional for more general “truck stuff” at a lower price point than the Raptor. The Raptor at the top of the line needs to stand apart to some extent or Ford wouldn’t be able to push them.
 
Goldilocks Complex. Little too cold, little too hot. . . on any truck off the shelf.

I'd much prefer a Raptor if it was normal width and had more towing capacity. Its clearly a better looking truck but part of the attraction is the crazy width that makes driving around town and parking a hellish nightmare in any semi-urban or even suburban setting. Honestly the Gen3 Raptor with the rear suspension moving to 5 Link is the real question if they were not charging $5-15K over sticker presently.
 
Goldilocks Complex. Little too cold, little too hot. . . on any truck off the shelf.

I'd much prefer a Raptor if it was normal width and had more towing capacity. Its clearly a better looking truck but part of the attraction is the crazy width that makes driving around town and parking a hellish nightmare in any semi-urban or even suburban setting. Honestly the Gen3 Raptor with the rear suspension moving to 5 Link is the real question if they were not charging $5-15K over sticker presently.
All things being equal, I would without a doubt take the Gen3 Raptor. As you said the 5 link alone is huge. That said no way I would be willing to pay the markup and who knows when that situation is going to change. Plus from a practical standpoint I spend a lot more time in town than off-road and I tow regularly. I made the right choice for me, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say the Gen3 doesn’t still interest me.
 
You get a chance to drive it? I never got to drive the Raptor I bet they are something :)
 
Fortunately no. Who knows what type of foolish decisions I would have made. :p The Gen2 was a lot of fun when I drove one, so I have no doubt the Gen3 would be a blast. If I was in the southwest in the Raptor’s natural habitat I think I would find a way to have one.
 
Just saw my first one in person and it didn’t emotionally go the way I thought it would. I expected it to push me towards the truck I have on order. I’m not sure I can let go of my Raptor. 🤬🤔

I need to sleep on things.
On a positive note, you can always make an f150 look better. You can't make a Raptor tow or haul more.
 
I have seen two in the wild now. My neighbor around the corner has a black tremor, there was also a lead foot parked at a race I ran last weekend. They both look great! I could imagine if a raptor was parked next to ether one they would not have had that “wow factor”. the raptor steals the show, but as has been said they are different vehicles. The tremor fits my needs best and looks good doing it
 
Just saw my first one in person and it didn’t emotionally go the way I thought it would. I expected it to push me towards the truck I have on order. I’m not sure I can let go of my Raptor. 🤬🤔

I need to sleep on things.
So you’re gonna stick with a truck that doesn’t excel on the trails you’re interested in? I was looking forward to seeing your mods.
 
I have no need for a Raptor and I wouldn’t really ever be putting it to the use it was intended for so I know the Tremor is a great choice for me. That being said, I still am drawn to the Raptor. They just look mean.
 
Just saw my first one in person and it didn’t emotionally go the way I thought it would. I expected it to push me towards the truck I have on order. I’m not sure I can let go of my Raptor. 🤬🤔

I need to sleep on things.
I felt the same. I built a Tremor online and a Raptor. The Raptor came in at 7,600 more. The Raptor has the larger tires, coil springs, I don't have to do a level and I've never owned one. The Tremor looks great with the orange inserts on the seats, better fuel millage, not as wide as the Raptor but I have to do a level kit and maybe tires. Its going to comedown to the mood I'm in that day, and what the dealer can do on price. If the dealer can do invoice on the Tremor or below on an order but can't do anything on the Raptor than the price difference will be too great and I'll go Tremor. If its sticker on both than I'm going Raptor. If I put my order in today It would be code Orange for the Raptor, or Iconic Silver for the Tremor.
 
Just a thought — If there is truly an issue with the Raptor width on the trails, why not mod the trail truck? I think you can surpass the performance of a stock Raptor in some aspects:

- Increase ~76 WHP (Over Stock Raptor): Performance Tune & New Intercooler Package for under ~$1800
- Active / Predictive Suspension Upgrade: SDI E-CLIK Package + Favorite Coilovers & Shocks ~$4000
- Riding on 35’s: Insert your estimate here — it varies a lot.

Down the road I want a Raptor Gen 4 — but I am planning on heading to Nevada - Arizona - Utah to play in the desert at that time. Right now I want to work on the trail truck.
 
I woke up this morning knowing what I needed to do. I'm keeping my Gen 2 Raptor. You all brought up good points, but I have a couple of mitigating factors you aren't aware of. We also have a Jeep, so I do have a trail rig, just doesn't have the bells/whistles/amenities I was hoping to get from the Tremor. I also don't have a need to tow above what the Raptor can handle at the moment. We have future plans for a larger trailer, but that needs to wait at least a year anyway until our house/shop build is complete. All said and done, once I replace the Raptor's springs for ~$2500, it'll do what I need it to do for now and my build is complete. I can reevaluate in a couple years.

@Robb1 - I was expecting the Tremor to be a touch closer to the Raptor. It's nearly in the same price point. Mine built out to $70k and with replacing the suspension and wheels and tires, I'd actually outspend a 35" build on the Gen3 Raptor.

@deucedevil - I use my Raptor as a daily driver now at about 20k miles a year. I really don't mind the width driving it around town. I even park it in tiny spots and parallel park it all of the time. I only need to pay attention to parking garage heights and on one narrow bridge, I have to fold in my mirrors. You get used to it quickly. I won't pay over sticker, I will wait until I can buy below sticker.

@NvrEnough - It really is something and why I'm having a hard time letting go.

@Yeti - As I was sitting there gazing at the Gen 2 Raptor, the Tremor, and a Rocky Ridge F150, I started to think about that. Could I really get the Tremor to look how I want? I just don't think I can. It was small things like how the rear fender transitions to the rear bumper. The styling of the hood and the grill. Real carbon fiber in the interior. I was planning about $15k in mods on the Tremor and I just realized even once I spend the money, I don't think I'd be happy. I know they are all small petty things, but those are the things that make me grin when walking up to my truck.

@P0H0 - I know, but as I said above, we do have a trail rig. While I could mod it, performance really wasn't my issue, it came down to styling. I can't wait to see your finished product!

@MOHunter - That's the hard part! It is just mean looking and I can't let it go. While my opportunities to really open it up and catch air with it have been limited, when I do get the chance, it's amazing. Doing 70 mph on dirt roads in baja mode is purely exhilarating. Aside from that, it's about the best daily driver you could ask for.

@James Dean - Luckily I've already got a Gen2 Raptor. I'll wait for the 3rd year of the Gen 3 to make my purchase. History shows they will have the mid-generational updates done and dealers are sitting on enough inventory they will go below sticker price.
 
I woke up this morning knowing what I needed to do. I'm keeping my Gen 2 Raptor. You all brought up good points, but I have a couple of mitigating factors you aren't aware of. We also have a Jeep, so I do have a trail rig, just doesn't have the bells/whistles/amenities I was hoping to get from the Tremor. I also don't have a need to tow above what the Raptor can handle at the moment. We have future plans for a larger trailer, but that needs to wait at least a year anyway until our house/shop build is complete. All said and done, once I replace the Raptor's springs for ~$2500, it'll do what I need it to do for now and my build is complete. I can reevaluate in a couple years.

@Robb1 - I was expecting the Tremor to be a touch closer to the Raptor. It's nearly in the same price point. Mine built out to $70k and with replacing the suspension and wheels and tires, I'd actually outspend a 35" build on the Gen3 Raptor.

@deucedevil - I use my Raptor as a daily driver now at about 20k miles a year. I really don't mind the width driving it around town. I even park it in tiny spots and parallel park it all of the time. I only need to pay attention to parking garage heights and on one narrow bridge, I have to fold in my mirrors. You get used to it quickly. I won't pay over sticker, I will wait until I can buy below sticker.

@NvrEnough - It really is something and why I'm having a hard time letting go.

@Yeti - As I was sitting there gazing at the Gen 2 Raptor, the Tremor, and a Rocky Ridge F150, I started to think about that. Could I really get the Tremor to look how I want? I just don't think I can. It was small things like how the rear fender transitions to the rear bumper. The styling of the hood and the grill. Real carbon fiber in the interior. I was planning about $15k in mods on the Tremor and I just realized even once I spend the money, I don't think I'd be happy. I know they are all small petty things, but those are the things that make me grin when walking up to my truck.

@P0H0 - I know, but as I said above, we do have a trail rig. While I could mod it, performance really wasn't my issue, it came down to styling. I can't wait to see your finished product!

@MOHunter - That's the hard part! It is just mean looking and I can't let it go. While my opportunities to really open it up and catch air with it have been limited, when I do get the chance, it's amazing. Doing 70 mph on dirt roads in baja mode is purely exhilarating. Aside from that, it's about the best daily driver you could ask for.

@James Dean - Luckily I've already got a Gen2 Raptor. I'll wait for the 3rd year of the Gen 3 to make my purchase. History shows they will have the mid-generational updates done and dealers are sitting on enough inventory they will go below sticker price.
Yeah man. I get it. I'm in the same boat with the power wagon. It does everything I want and need but doesn't have the tech the ford does. I'm going to stick it out with the Tremor only to make you second guess your decision. 😉
 
@RotorHead695 All of this makes perfect sense. Can we see the rig?! Also, what is your payload?
 
@RotorHead695 All of this makes perfect sense. Can we see the rig?! Also, what is your payload?
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Well I just heard back from my first dealer. Its a major no go. He has no Raptor allocations for 2022 because He has to roll the 2021's that weren't delivered. Than he said on a Tremor order it will be MSRP. NO WAY am I paying MSRP on a 6 month order.
 

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