Winch Selection

[Nickac]

So…. I want to add a winch and do the Swarfworks mount but the ones they advertise are so expensive plus I’ve got to relocate the intercooler. It’s not something I want to send $2k on. Are there any other solid options out there?

 

[Iconic5.0]

You need one that lets you engage the free spool with the remote because with that mount it’s a pain to get to if you have to use the traditional switch lever. That’s why the one they recommend the Warn.

 

[Nickac]

Solid point. Is there a cheaper Warn that would work?

 

[BUFF]

Solid point. Is there a cheaper Warn that would work?

Not in the Warn brand. The one I’m looking at is the XP and it will be around $3,000. The BRaptor gets the first one. There may be some other brands and someone else may come up with other suggestions.

 

[PNWTremor]

Solid point. Is there a cheaper Warn that would work?

Electronically controlled clutches on any winch are going to be exclusive to the more expensive ones; that starts and ends with the Zeon. You're going to pay a minimum of $1500 for that feature set.

IMO - A winch is an insurance policy if you get stuck. I would steer clear of any TEMU brands though. Do you really want to cheap out on that policy?

Another option is to get a VR 10/12s and install the Vice Designs clutch relcation kit: https://www.vicedesign.ca/products/ram-warn-vr-evo-clutch-relocation-kit. I know it's for a RAM but it's an option. There is another thread on this kit here if you’re interested: https://www.f150tremor.com/threads/removed.3908/post-77957 @Bucket1 can you help us out?

Worst case you can leave the clutch engaged and let it spool out under its own power. How much do you plan on using this?

 

[BillfLang]

So…. I want to add a winch and do the Swarfworks mount but the ones they advertise are so expensive plus I’ve got to relocate the intercooler. It’s not something I want to send $2k on. Are there any other solid options out there?

Have an open road works great.

So…. I want to add a winch and do the Swarfworks mount but the ones they advertise are so expensive plus I’ve got to relocate the intercooler. It’s not something I want to send $2k on. Are there any other solid options out there?

have a open

 

[Nickac]

Electronically controlled clutches on any winch are going to be exclusive to the more expensive ones; that starts and ends with the Zeon. You're going to pay a minimum of $1500 for that feature set.

IMO - A winch is an insurance policy if you get stuck. I would steer clear of any TEMU brands though. Do you really want to cheap out on that policy?

Another option is to get a VR 10/12s and install the Vice Designs clutch relcation kit: https://www.vicedesign.ca/products/ram-warn-vr-evo-clutch-relocation-kit. I know it's for a RAM but it's an option. There is another thread on this kit here if you’re interested: https://www.f150tremor.com/threads/removed.3908/post-77957 @Bucket1 can you help us out?

Worst case you can leave the clutch engaged and let it spool out under its own power. How much do you plan on using this?

It was never my intention to cheap out on a TEMU brand. When I say cheaper I ment not $3k. $1500 seems reasonable and at that price point should be reliable.

 

[zimm]

If you go Warn - the VR's are imported (Chinese) while the M and Zeon series are made in the USA.

 

[deepblack]

Get this one and a factor 55 fairlead and hook. Ready for cars and coffee.

But really, you can spool out the line while you are figuring out what to do, so just buy one that will reliably get you unstuck that’s in your budget.

PS Don’t actually connect that one to the battery

 

[Nickac]

Ok I see where this is going . Thanks I’ll figure something out.

 

[PNWTremor]

It was never my intention to cheap out on a TEMU brand. When I say cheaper I ment not $3k. $1500 seems reasonable and at that price point should be reliable.

Expensive toys require expensive tools. $1500 is what you’ll find a zeon 10 (not s) for on sale if you look around during the holidays. Otherwise it’s all $1800+.

Good luck.

 

[PNWTremor]

If you go Warn - the VR's are imported (Chinese) while the M and Zeon series are made in the USA.

They are all made in China, the difference is the zeon/XD series are assembled in the US. Nothing is truely “made in USA” anymore.

The difference is warn has a reputation. Most of these undergone heavy QC before you ever get your hands on it.

The warranty is pretty good too.

 

[Nickac]

Zeon 10s is the way to go. Found it for $1500. Please confirm and correct me that the only issue is the manual clutch release right? Looks like that relocation kit will do the trick and I can make a hydraulic hose at work to the correct length. since I have the Parker crimper.

 

[PNWTremor]

Zeon 10s is the way to go. Found it for $1500. Please confirm and correct me that the only issue is the manual clutch release right? Looks like that relocation kit will do the trick and I can make a hydraulic hose at work to the correct length. since I have the Parker crimper.

If you get a Zeon 10s you don’t need to relocate the clutch.

Correct. If you have a winch w/o an electronic free spool clutch, you have to either 1) get on the ground and do it manually or 2) relocate it.

 

[Machine]

Also a fan man-child of the Warn Zeon 12S Platinum. Yes, it's expensive, but as someone who has had to snake an arm up just to get to the switch on this winch on dry ground, you don't want to be trying to do that for the clutch when your front end is buried in mud and water. Move the intercooler (not needed with the V8, of course) and enjoy the fact that your winch is well worth it. Just keep the wireless controller charged (or install an on/off switch on the controller) as the battery doesn't last long (few weeks) after a charge.

You can also move the control head up higher on the truck, fwiw.

 

[Bucket1]

Electronically controlled clutches on any winch are going to be exclusive to the more expensive ones; that starts and ends with the Zeon. You're going to pay a minimum of $1500 for that feature set.

IMO - A winch is an insurance policy if you get stuck. I would steer clear of any TEMU brands though. Do you really want to cheap out on that policy?

Another option is to get a VR 10/12s and install the Vice Designs clutch relcation kit: https://www.vicedesign.ca/products/ram-warn-vr-evo-clutch-relocation-kit. I know it's for a RAM but it's an option. There is another thread on this kit here if you’re interested: https://www.f150tremor.com/threads/removed.3908/post-77957 @Bucket1 can you help us out?

Worst case you can leave the clutch engaged and let it spool out under its own power. How much do you plan on using this?

Yes it was not a bad install with Vice kit. I was using my plasma cutter to cut the hole in the swarf kit if I took my time and wasn't impatient I would have used a hole saw. Other than that I just took my time and measured a bunch of times before I crimp the end of the hydraulic hose. I just couldn't see spending that kind of money on a new winch when I hit a perfectly good one to use. The Machining from the vice kit was perfect. I did clock the winch like swarthworks said to do. With the coyote motor there is so much room in front of the engine I believe you could get somebody else's winch mounting plate. But you guys at the EcoBoost have a lot more to do with the intercooler in the way. I don't know if it would be cheaper to get a bumper with a winch mount included in it. For some reason I can't attach files to this reply. But if you look up my previous post there should be pictures of the which install

 

[98infinity]

Yes it was not a bad install with Vice kit. I was using my plasma cutter to cut the hole in the swarf kit if I took my time and wasn't impatient I would have used a hole saw. Other than that I just took my time and measured a bunch of times before I crimp the end of the hydraulic hose. I just couldn't see spending that kind of money on a new winch when I hit a perfectly good one to use. The Machining from the vice kit was perfect. I did clock the winch like swarthworks said to do. With the coyote motor there is so much room in front of the engine I believe you could get somebody else's winch mounting plate. But you guys at the EcoBoost have a lot more to do with the intercooler in the way. I don't know if it would be cheaper to get a bumper with a winch mount included in it. For some reason I can't attach files to this reply. But if you look up my previous post there should be pictures of the which install

is there enough room to make a vertical kit like the vice one so you could activate the clutch in the grill or under the hood?

 

[Bucket1]

is there enough room to make a vertical kit like the vice one so you could activate the clutch in the grill or under the hood?

You could probably get a longer hydraulic line and route it up somewhere by the radiator inside the grill I'm sure it would take some figuring out to do

 

[Belgiantremor]

I have the warn vr 12 s on my truck and I have never use the clutch . I just spool out with the controller . Not like there is a rush wen winching anyway

 

[Bucket1]

I have the warn vr 12 s on my truck and I have never use the clutch . I just spool out with the controller . Not like there is a rush wen winching anyway

It shouldn't hurt anything it just lowers the duty cycle because of the extra heat going into the winch