How many miles did you get out of your stock tires?

[TheWaterman]

On my 2019 Rebel I had 45k on my Wrangler DuraCraps before I switched them out for KO2's. Still had tread left but you could feel them really losing their grip in rain/snow as @Bighorn Tremor said.

My Tremor only has 1400 miles on it so I can't speak yet for the generals.

 

[furryflashbang]

I just replaced my stock Generals at 45K. They weren't completely worn but getting close.

 

[SubyEvo]

2023. My OEM grabbers have 13,000 miles on em. But have really odd cracking happening around all the tire lugs. Happening on all tires.
Live in Canada so these tires aren’t exposed to high heat.
General grabbers are a popular tire up here because they are winter rated. My dad has a set on his 1 ton built in 2017 and they do not have the cracking..
very strange..

Dealers were replacing them with pro-rated warranty. They said Ford was charging customers for the difference.

 

[TremorKaos]

I replaced the OEM Grabbers on my 22 a couple of months ago at 50,400 miles. Wear was perfect and still had another ~10k miles of life or so left. Only replaced them due to slicing a lug off one on a hunting trip. It was a good excuse to upgrade.

 

[CAMDENN]

I haven’t worn mine out yet but I’ve been very impressed with the Generals.

If you’re not looking to go crazy off road and in my opinion, it’s a very nice riding tire and I have no complaints.

 

[TremorKaos]

I haven’t worn mine out yet but I’ve been very impressed with the Generals.

If you’re not looking to go crazy off road and in my opinion, it’s a very nice riding tire and I have no complaints.

I absolutely agree with CAMDENN and was seriously considering another set. Great for daily driving and all around use. I mostly switched to try something new; we will see how the Falken At4's compare.

 

[SubyEvo]

I haven’t worn mine out yet but I’ve been very impressed with the Generals.

If you’re not looking to go crazy off road and in my opinion, it’s a very nice riding tire and I have no complaints.

Definitely agree. The only thing I haven't liked is that they vibrate at 70 mph. I've balanced them and then road forced balanced them. Still get the shakes.

 

[EgoBoost]

Dealers were replacing them with pro-rated warranty. They said Ford was charging customers for the difference.

Mine were defective. I’m not the only one who experienced the dry rot style cracking. I found a guy getting rid of his ram rebel take offs wrangler duratracs for next to nothing. They had less than 1,000 kms on them. Better than fighting with ford and paying more in pro rated BS.
I also wasn’t sure if I wanted to go up a size after my Eibach stage 2 kit install.

 

[Kbar]

So there’s lots of variables when it comes to tire longevity and one of the most important is location.
Yes, a fellow on AZ is going to get more life than a guy in CN because he can wear out the siping and not have traction issues.
Another variable is the tire compound and sidewall layers. A lot of folks like the LT 6-10 ply tires for off roading but they’re made for hauling loads and will be a harder compound with stiff ride and less wet traction.
Being in the PNW I look for siping depth. A lot of tires like the grabbers have half depth siping on their lugs, so once they get to their half life of 8-10/32’s they loose traction significantly. This is due to the siping loss.
Here’s some examples I’ve had from some Toyos I got 42k out of on my previous truck
New

40k

Notice the middle tread blocks have lost a lot of their sipes. This leads to wet traction loss and they still had 8/32” tread.
I decided to change them out before winter and bit the bullet on some KO3’s

They are a load range C with full depth siping

I ran 20k on these tires and although they weren’t as surefooted as my beloved Toyos, the lug loss was minimal. If you want longevity out of a tire in inclimate weather you want siping. Once that siping is down there, less flexibility in the lugs and more slippage. I’m new to these Grabbers and have 30k on them but just got it and the ride is fine.

The siping is around half gone and before long they’ll be worthless in the wet.
My next set will be the KO3’s before winter

 

[EgoBoost]

So there’s lots of variables when it comes to tire longevity and one of the most important is location.
Yes, a fellow on AZ is going to get more life than a guy in CN because he can wear out the siping and not have traction issues.
Another variable is the tire compound and sidewall layers. A lot of folks like the LT 6-10 ply tires for off roading but they’re made for hauling loads and will be a harder compound with stiff ride and less wet traction.
Being in the PNW I look for siping depth. A lot of tires like the grabbers have half depth siping on their lugs, so once they get to their half life of 8-10/32’s they loose traction significantly. This is due to the siping loss.
Here’s some examples I’ve had from some Toyos I got 42k out of on my previous truck
New
View attachment 46139
40k
View attachment 46140Notice the middle tread blocks have lost a lot of their sipes. This leads to wet traction loss and they still had 8/32” tread.
I decided to change them out before winter and bit the bullet on some KO3’s
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They are a load range C with full depth siping
View attachment 46142
I ran 20k on these tires and although they weren’t as surefooted as my beloved Toyos, the lug loss was minimal. If you want longevity out of a tire in inclimate weather you want siping. Once that siping is down there, less flexibility in the lugs and more slippage. I’m new to these Grabbers and have 30k on them but just got it and the ride is fine. View attachment 46143The siping is around half gone and before long they’ll be worthless in the wet.
My next set will be the KO3’s before winter

I’m in British Columbia. I run dedicated studded winters. This way I can run my AT tires right out. It’s actually cheaper for me to run two sets for the exact reason you listed above. ATs are good for two winters but still good for a decent while in the warmer months.

 

[Kbar]

I’m in British Columbia. I run dedicated studded winters. This way I can run my AT tires right out. It’s actually cheaper for me to run two sets for the exact reason you listed above. ATs are good for two winters but still good for a decent while in the warmer months.

Do you have different rims or just swap the tires on the same ones twice a year?

 

[EgoBoost]

Do you have different rims or just swap the tires on the same ones twice a year?

Two sets of rims for all my vehicles. I always use the stock wheels for winter. They hold up the best. And I don’t have to worry about my nicer wheels getting salt on them

 

[SubyEvo]

I put Blizzaks on my factory wheels. I run the factory tires on Fuel wheels and use them mostly through the year. The Blizzaks come on for blizzards or when we consistently stay at -30C or below. The Grabbers have been good for most of the year for me but the roads around here are crap and worn out.

A local tire shop is telling me to try Yokohama G18 AT4s. They recommend those for trucks that mostly highway drive. My truck is 99% highway. Trying to figure what to replace the factory tires with. Falken, Toyo, Nitto, BF, Bridgestone, Yokohama... lots of options.

I will say this though, when I use the Blizzaks, I find the truck "wobbles" when I pass on the highway due to soft sidewalls. The first few passes after install and I remember to change my driving habits.

 

[EgoBoost]

I put Blizzaks on my factory wheels. I run the factory tires on Fuel wheels and use them mostly through the year. The Blizzaks come on for blizzards or when we consistently stay at -30C or below. The Grabbers have been good for most of the year for me but the roads around here are crap and worn out.

A local tire shop is telling me to try Yokohama G18 AT4s. They recommend those for trucks that mostly highway drive. My truck is 99% highway. Trying to figure what to replace the factory tires with. Falken, Toyo, Nitto, BF, Bridgestone, Yokohama... lots of options.

I will say this though, when I use the Blizzaks, I find the truck "wobbles" when I pass on the highway due to soft sidewalls. The first few passes after install and I remember to change my driving habits.

I’ve been there. With squishy winter tires. Now I run Nokian studded Hakkapelitta LT tires. The LT’s cost more but they don’t suffer from overly squishy sidewalls like the SUV tires.
If you live in an area that gets icy. The studded Hakkas are worth the price of admission.
I’m in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. We get lots of sneaky ice mid corner, in the shady areas.

 

[SubyEvo]

I’ve been there. With squishy winter tires. Now I run Nokian studded Hakkapelitta LT tires. The LT’s cost more but they don’t suffer from overly squishy sidewalls like the SUV tires.
If you live in an area that gets icy. The studded Hakkas are worth the price of admission.
I’m in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. We get lots of sneaky ice mid corner, in the shady areas.

We get chinooks so it's snows a ton and melts within weeks all winter lol

 

[EgoBoost]

We get chinooks so it's snows a ton and melts within weeks all winter lol

Ahh! Calgarian. Enough said!

 

[SubyEvo]

Ahh! Calgarian. Enough said!

Airdrie but close enough lol!

 

[ReidPfromNC]

I’m at 54,000 in 21 months with a lot of highway miles, but also with a Whipple for 49,000 of those miles, and considering quite a few miles-worth left on NC blacktop early on, I’m very happy with the longevity. But they are getting louder naturally so I’m replacing in the coming weeks. For the first year plus, I was amazed at how smooth and quite the truck was. Since I do practically no off-roading, I started to go with more of a comparable-sized highway tire, but I like the way these look so I’m going back with them.