Ran out of gas...

[BoostKing]

I did the same thing once on my 2013. I put the boat in at the ramp (incline) and everything was good. Where I parked, I had to nose down into a runoff area to get my trailer tucked out of the way enough. Long story short, come back to get my truck, truck starts and dies. Nose is pointing down, truck says empty now.

Moral of story, wont park my truck facing down a hill with less than 1/4 tank.

 

[Yeti]

I did the same thing once on my 2013. I put the boat in at the ramp (incline) and everything was good. Where I parked, I had to nose down into a runoff area to get my trailer tucked out of the way enough. Long story short, come back to get my truck, truck starts and dies. Nose is pointing down, truck says empty now.

Moral of story, wont park my truck facing down a hill with less than 1/4 tank.

especially with a 4 degree rake built into our trucks, already.

 

[DingDongDoug]

With 7 gallons remaining.
I was in my back yard (a small mountain) and had 50 miles remaining to E...
Coming down hill, mountain Yak started to run out of gas. Before I got the 1/4 mile down the hill, it died. I grabbed a 2 gallon can I had in the garage, emptied it, went straight to the gas station and put 27.2 gallon in..

Moral of this story, the fas pump is in the very back of the tank. At 6 degrees declination, it can't feed the engine.

I'm sorry Yeti. That does suck. I also heard of this issue before and the story of the guy that got stuck in a cabin in the snow cause he parked on a hill.
Looks like there is a down side to having the larger tank.
I guess when my Dad told me to fill up at half a tank he knew what he was talking about. Ill give him that one.
50 miles to empty is obviously a red line that shouldn't be crossed unless you are in a flat city. And thank you for pushing the envelope so now we all know.

 

[High_Country]

Just thinking out loud - I wonder if there’s a pump solution with dual pickups where one pickup hose could be routed to the front of the tank with the other in the original location in the rear. Hmmm?

 

[Yeti]

Just thinking out loud - I wonder if there’s a pump solution with dual pickups where one pickup hose could be routed to the front of the tank with the other in the original location in the rear. Hmmm?

I've been looking but try doing a search on f150 gas tank and pickup

 

[Yeti]

I'm sorry Yeti. That does suck. I also heard of this issue before and the story of the guy that got stuck in a cabin in the snow cause he parked on a hill.
Looks like there is a down side to having the larger tank.
I guess when my Dad told me to fill up at half a tank he knew what he was talking about. Ill give him that one.
50 miles to empty is obviously a red line that shouldn't be crossed unless you are in a flat city. And thank you for pushing the envelope so now we all know.

Yeah, it wasn't too bad. I mean, my back yard is only 1/2 mile deep. Plus my wife running the gas up was a bonus.

That is exactly why I test everything in the back yard. I have the perfect testing environment for what I'll do

 

[DingDongDoug]

I've been looking but try doing a search on f150 gas tank and pickup

This might be a bit too much, but a dual fuel pump system might work. The main one in the back and the AUX in the front.
With a switch to change over to the front pump in case you get stuck nose down in Yeti's back yard.

Edit:
The more I think about it, a longer pickup tube in the tank like High_Country suggested is probably a more elegant solution. Maybe not two fill points, but just a longer one to sit closer to the bottom.
I am also seeing this issue in a lot of different forums. Toyota/Dodge and obviously older car forums. Its not just the Tremor. There must be some simple solution out there.

The 36 is on the left here. It cant be too hard to open it up and drop a different pickup tube or re-route it.

 

[FaKtor34]

This might be a bit too much, but a dual fuel pump system might work. The main one in the back and the AUX in the front.
With a switch to change over to the front pump in case you get stuck nose down in Yeti's back yard.

Edit:
The more I think about it, a longer pickup tube in the tank like High_Country suggested is probably a more elegant solution. Maybe not two fill points, but just a longer one to sit closer to the bottom.
I am also seeing this issue in a lot of different forums. Toyota/Dodge and obviously older car forums. Its not just the Tremor. There must be some simple solution out there.

The 36 is on the left here. It cant be too hard to open it up and drop a different pickup tube or re-route it.
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While that should work it's a major pain in the azz to drop those tanks, a lot of stuff has to be dropped with it, best to do it on a lift. To answer everyone's question though I had a buddy drop his F250 tank and he put an T adapter on the short end and ran a hose to the other end 2 inches shy of the end of the tank. This allowed it to pick up wherever the gas was. He has not had a problem in almost 2 yrs.

 

[Badmothertrucker]

I'm sorry Yeti. That does suck. I also heard of this issue before and the story of the guy that got stuck in a cabin in the snow cause he parked on a hill.
Looks like there is a down side to having the larger tank.
I guess when my Dad told me to fill up at half a tank he knew what he was talking about. Ill give him that one.
50 miles to empty is obviously a red line that shouldn't be crossed unless you are in a flat city. And thank you for pushing the envelope so now we all know.

Shouldn't Ford be obligated to fix this, I think this is a design/operational issue.
The worst case scenario this can end up stranding people through no fault of their own and something tragic happens as a result then they would take action but it shouldn't have to come to that they should fix their flaw on their dime in my opinion.

 

[DingDongDoug]

Shouldn't Ford be obligated to fix this, I think this is a design/operational issue.
The worst case scenario this can end up stranding people through no fault of their own and something tragic happens as a result then they would take action but it shouldn't have to come to that they should fix their flaw on their dime in my opinion.

Possibly.
It is an issue that many manufactures are having with large tanks. I have found multiple forums for RAM, Toyota and older cars that mention issues with angles and gas tanks.
I'm not sure Ford is specifically responsible for this, but I would love to see Ford address this with a kit.

 

[DingDongDoug]

While that should work it's a major pain in the azz to drop those tanks, a lot of stuff has to be dropped with it, best to do it on a lift. To answer everyone's question though I had a buddy drop his F250 tank and he put an T adapter on the short end and ran a hose to the other end 2 inches shy of the end of the tank. This allowed it to pick up wherever the gas was. He has not had a problem in almost 2 yrs.

That seems like a good solution.
Since it works for for your friend, I'm sure its not an issue, but I would think if one tube is sucking air that it may cause issues. Seems like that's no the reality but it seems like it should.
The things that I don't know about gas tanks and fuel lines outnumber the things I do know about them though.

 

[BoostKing]

That seems like a good solution.
Since it works for for your friend, I'm sure its not an issue, but I would think if one tube is sucking air that it may cause issues. Seems like that's no the reality but it seems like it should.
The things that I don't know about gas tanks and fuel lines outnumber the things I do know about them though.

Agreed. I've been thinking, could I make an easy solution for this that could be sold and DIY enough for most to want to upgrade to it, yet my inexperience has me doubting things.

Time to call in some other resources and see if they can lend any advice on if there is a viable option for this, while I ponder how the OEM didn't do this already on an "off road" vehicle that may see low fuel situations on high angle declines.....

 

[Yeti]

Agreed. I've been thinking, could I make an easy solution for this that could be sold and DIY enough for most to want to upgrade to it, yet my inexperience has me doubting things.

Time to call in some other resources and see if they can lend any advice on if there is a viable option for this, while I ponder how the OEM didn't do this already on an "off road" vehicle that may see low fuel situations on high angle declines.....

A simple float bowl would work reasonably in the front of the tank make that tube about 1.5x the ID to reduce possible vacuum issues and that would be better than running out of gas while at a 6 degree decline with 150 miles of fuel left in the tank.

 

[texrex11]

So instead of the Carolina squat, we have the Detroit Rake? I wouldn't mind that being illegal for selfish reasons.

On a positive note, my wife is an ultra marathon runner and didn't mind muling up a 2 gallon can.

On another note, when it ran out of gas and stalled, the steering and brakes worked perfectly

Thats weird, i sometimes forget to turn off the auto start/stop, the other day i forgot to turn i toff and i tried to turn the wheel and it wouldnt budge (not that i was wrenching on it of course). I hate the auto start/stop. Are you saying you had full control of the steering with the truck just on battery?

 

[Yeti]

Thats weird, i sometimes forget to turn off the auto start/stop, the other day i forgot to turn i toff and i tried to turn the wheel and it wouldnt budge (not that i was wrenching on it of course). I hate the auto start/stop. Are you saying you had full control of the steering with the truck just on battery?

Yeah, while it was still on from the stall, I could use it. Once I shut it down, it wasn't very useful

 

[EldritchText]

Maybe those Carolina squat retards were onto something after all.

Jesus Christ I just read this and almost made me spit out my drink