Towing at the limit of the Tremor

[Chipk]

Couple photos of the 5100s

Did you install these yourself or take them to a shop?

Curious as to what it would cost to have these installed??

 

[Stevenrausch]

Did you install these yourself or take them to a shop?

Curious as to what it would cost to have these installed??

I did the rear myself super easy! The fronts I had done, I found a shop by me that did it for 300$ And they let me wait there for it and I even watched them do the install, you’d have a hard time finding a shop like that tho, btw I supplied the shocks, if I remember correctly I paid 320$ for the front shocks. I got pricing from other shops and it ranged from 500$ to 700$ just for the installation.

 

[Chipk]

I did the rear myself super easy! The fronts I had done, I found a shop by me that did it for 300$ And they let me wait there for it and I even watched them do the install, you’d have a hard time finding a shop like that tho, btw I supplied the shocks, if I remember correctly I paid 320$ for the front shocks. I got pricing from other shops and it ranged from 500$ to 700$ just for the installation.

Thanks, I may go that same route.

Also saw the Bilstein 5160 but at twice the price, not sure if the value is there!

 

[Stevenrausch]

Thanks, I may go that same route.

Also saw the Bilstein 5160 but at twice the price, not sure if the value is there!

Yea I agree, I think if I was going to start spending that kind of coin I’d go with the icon system!

 

[112]

Anyone towing larger toys haulers with there Tremors?
I'm seeing that the tongue weight is pretty high on some of these. Basically meant to loaded to get the tongue weight down to a manageable level.
Not an issue for weekends we are going racing. But for weekends that we are using it as a normal camper, what do you guys do to add ballast back?
The tremor has 11k towing ability, with 1550 payload. I will be using a weight distribution hitch, and have air bags. (i know the bags don't change weights) The WDH will transfer some weight back to the camper, so i will gain some payload back.
The camper I'm looking at is 8700lbs dry with 1450 tongue weight. On a race weekend, it will be easy to get it down to 1000 lbs tongue weight (cargo in garage) which gives me enough payload for me and the family.
I realize this is on the upper end of the truck, but should be within specs.
What do you guys use for ballast when your not towing toys?
FYI my last camper was 33' (inside) long and 8k empty. Probably closer to 9k normal. And the truck handled it perfectly fine.

Also no mountains or grades. I live in iowa, and its flat.

Just my opinion but I wouldn’t pull anything at or over 1000lb tongue weight.
Half tons are good for under 10k trailer weight and under 1k tongue. Anything more and you should consider Tremor SD

 

[Burns363R]

Yea... its not an issue. Been towing my trailer that is 12700ish loaded without issue since posting about this. Truck handles it beautifully.

 

[HarleyDavid]

This is someone’s 2024 fully loaded less tonneau cover

 

[HarleyDavid]

This is my 24 Tremor fully loaded sunroof, tonneau cover, spray bed, 402A,Bed scale and new gate. I tow a 6k lbs RV W/700 lbs tongue, weight &!hand like a charm. previously had an 18 raptor with same RV was 500 lbs pounds over recommended GVW with passenger and gas. Towed 3 years from New York to Tennessee to Maine handled like a charm. May not
recommend going over suggestion limits but certainly no concerns at 100%

 

[112]

Just my opinion but I wouldn’t pull anything at or over 1000lb tongue weight.
Half tons are good for under 10k trailer weight and under 1k tongue. Anything more and you should consider Tremor SD

Yea... it’s not an issue. Been towing my trailer that is 12700ish loaded without issue since posting about this. Truck handles it beautifully.

Take that trailer through the Colorado mountains up I70 and you will change your response. I was doing the same as you with a 150 but after doing that drive I bought Tremor SD with 7.3, night and day difference in control and stability. Your truck has the power but the frame, suspension, and brakes are what you are lacking for safety purposes.

 

[Burns363R]

Yea I live in the Mid-west and will never tow into the mountains. If I had to for some reason, I would probably have to make some pretty big changes. That being said, the truck has the frame, suspension and brakes that handle it perfectly. I have no trailer sway, even on a decent side wind. Truck pulls straight at 70 mph and stops as quickly as any other vehicle.

Towing standards are setup for the example you outlined "towing in the mountains". But if you never tow in the mountains, things change quite a bit.

 

[zimm]

Old man 2 cents- "It tows like a charm until it doesn't". An emergency situation like a high speed lane change, a huge gust of cross wind in the mountains, or a panic stop on the highway are all situations where towing at or over the max can rear it's ugly head. You guys "do you", but I won't be towing at the limit with mine, especially with the family on board.

 

[metallikatz3]

I just got a new TT that weighs 5650lbs dry with 7200 GVWR. I think this is at the limit of what I would want to tow with my F150. More feedback to come after some trips up the mountains here in UT.

 

[Burns363R]

I have been towing along time. I would never advise to tow over your trucks limit. But I think towing up to the limit when setup correctly is completely fine. All the towing standards set in place are on the conservative side anyways to allow for people and situations that are not ideal.

That is the real point of this conversation.

 

[AGards]

I just got a new TT that weighs 5650lbs dry with 7200 GVWR. I think this is at the limit of what I would want to tow with my F150. More feedback to come after some trips up the mountains here in UT.

Nobo 20.3 w/ beast mode? been looking at that exact same one...

 

[112]

I have been towing along time. I would never advise to tow over your trucks limit. But I think towing up to the limit when setup correctly is completely fine. All the towing standards set in place are on the conservative side anyways to allow for people and situations that are not ideal.

That is the real point of this conversation.

True and you’re probably fine doing so but I personally feel better towing well within the limits. I had a 150 with smaller camper, then after a few years upgraded camper and then I was at max rating. At that point I chose to upgrade truck.

 

[metallikatz3]

Nobo 20.3 w/ beast mode? been looking at that exact same one...

Yup it is. I haven't gotten to go on any trips yet and it is currently back at the dealer for a leak around the slide out. But aside from that I love the concept of the offroad capabilities. Which being a traditionally built camper still aren't amazing, but it will suit my needs of getting to dispersed camp sites on BLM and forest service land.

 

[2 wheels]

Take that trailer through the Colorado mountains up I70 and you will change your response. I was doing the same as you with a 150 but after doing that drive I bought Tremor SD with 7.3, night and day difference in control and stability. Your truck has the power but the frame, suspension, and brakes are what you are lacking for safety purposes.

yeah. imv, 10K+ pounds up an down real mountains is too much for an F150 3.5 EB, even w/ all that torque. I don't ever want motor or brakes at their limits when I'm just making miles from place to place.

 

[AGards]

Yup it is. I haven't gotten to go on any trips yet and it is currently back at the dealer for a leak around the slide out. But aside from that I love the concept of the offroad capabilities. Which being a traditionally built camper still aren't amazing, but it will suit my needs of getting to dispersed camp sites on BLM and forest service land.

Sometimes I like to pretend I have money to spend on one...but was looking at that Airstream Tradewind. That may have to be when the kids are grown and it is just the Mrs. and me....

 

[rick.k]

If you want to safety tow that camper, I'd get a F250/350 Tremor. Or get a lighter trailer.
8700 pounds dry- that's manufacturer's optimistic weight. Plus batteries, propane, water in the tank, all your camping gear, kitchen gear, luggage, food, beverages. You can see how this will spin the dial to over 10,000 very fast. Wiser folks than me say you shouldn't normally tow over 80% capacity for safety.

Also, on the weight distribution hitches- they push some extra weight to the truck's front axle, but they don't give you any more cargo capacity.

For what it's worth, I've towed my Jeep for many hundreds of miles and it did great. I'm leveled and sagged a lot. I'll get airbags before I do it again. That was with 8,000 pounds on the CAT scale.

I agree with this totally, We have a 40 ft travel trailer approx 9300 lbs Dry, 1200 lbs tongue weight, Power not an issue, sway is brutal, even with anti sway equalizer, After 1000 miles each way, any winds, semi's, this is best for a F25), which now i also own

 

[112]

I agree with this totally, We have a 40 ft travel trailer approx 9300 lbs Dry, 1200 lbs tongue weight, Power not an issue, sway is brutal, even with anti sway equalizer, After 1000 miles each way, any winds, semi's, this is best for a F25), which now i also own

Agreed
I feel like when people post about towing at max capacity they are expecting props like wow the f150 is a beast look at what I’m pulling. No what you are doing is boarder line dangerous get a bigger truck.
I pulled my toy hauler once with 150, it weighs 10k with 1,050 tongue. It was too much weight, trailer was pushing the truck around. Can you do it yes but I prefer to be relaxed behind wheel not white knuckled lol