Towing at the limit of the Tremor

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For what it's worth, I've towed my Jeep for many hundreds of miles and it did great. I'm leveled and sagged a lot. I'll get airbags before I do it again. That was with 8,000 pounds on the CAT scale.

zimm, or anyone, I've a question? I've a stock suspension on my 23 (big rake and soft rear). Truck will spend much time towing a 22' trailer that's 5,600# dry, 6,200 GVWR and 460 tongue weight. When all is loaded I'll be near the 1,815# payload. I don't yet own the trailer.

I'm trying to figure out how much I can level-up the front and still have zero sag when loaded to near payload. If I level 2"-2.5" am I going to need bags or blocks no matter what to avoid sag when loaded near payload? Maybe add springs instead of block/bag? thanks

 

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zimm, or anyone, I've a question? I've a stock suspension on my 23 (big rake and soft rear). Truck will spend much time towing a 22' trailer that's 5,600# dry, 6,200 GVWR and 460 tongue weight. When all is loaded I'll be near the 1,815# payload. I don't yet own the trailer.

I'm trying to figure out how much I can level-up the front and still have zero sag when loaded to near payload. If I level 2"-2.5" am I going to need bags or blocks no matter what to avoid sag when loaded near payload? Maybe add springs instead of block/bag? thanks

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[Aandrews109]

zimm, or anyone, I've a question? I've a stock suspension on my 23 (big rake and soft rear). Truck will spend much time towing a 22' trailer that's 5,600# dry, 6,200 GVWR and 460 tongue weight. When all is loaded I'll be near the 1,815# payload. I don't yet own the trailer.

I'm trying to figure out how much I can level-up the front and still have zero sag when loaded to near payload. If I level 2"-2.5" am I going to need bags or blocks no matter what to avoid sag when loaded near payload? Maybe add springs instead of block/bag? thanks

I have a 2” ReadyLift Level on my ‘23. Tow a 26’ Trailer, 4700 lb. Dry, 7200 lbs max. Use a round bar Load Leveling hitch and am level when towing. Tongue weight is about 550 lbs. Running Gen 3 Raptor Wheels & 315/70R 17 KO2’s.
Truck handles it just fine.

 

[Aandrews109]

One other note from above. I did change out my rear shocks to Bilstein 5100’s.

 

[Burns363R]

Again, I think setup is key. My current setup is 1 hand on the wheel at 70 with no sway. It pulls great. That being said it took some adjusting to get it right. I often see guys with trailers that are way under specs on these trucks complaining about sway, which proves once again setup is everything.

 

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Again, I think setup is key. My current setup is 1 hand on the wheel at 70 with no sway. It pulls great. That being said it took some adjusting to get it right. I often see guys with trailers that are way under specs on these trucks complaining about sway, which proves once again setup is everything.

That’s it I’m telling your driving instructor you are not at a 10 and 2

 

[Burns363R]

That’s it I’m telling your driving instructor you are not at a 10 and 2

Guilty as charged.

 

[BlackMamba]

Again, I think setup is key. My current setup is 1 hand on the wheel at 70 with no sway. It pulls great. That being said it took some adjusting to get it right. I often see guys with trailers that are way under specs on these trucks complaining about sway, which proves once again setup is everything.

Do you mean adjustments to the Weight Distribution Hitch? I bought a 23 Tremor recently and I’ll be towing come summer a TT of Dry 4300 lbs, Cargo Capacity 1416 lbs and Hitch weight 434 lbs. I’m getting a RC 2.5” level kit (which replaces the coil over and puts a 1” rear block). I have an Equal-i-zer WD hitch rated for 10k lbs. I don’t have the tools to adjust it so I’m going come May to local RV shop for it. I’ll make sure they follow manufacturer instructions. Tips ?? I also have Raptor wheels take offs with 315/70R17 KO2.

 

[Burns363R]

Yea, at that weight with a correctly setup WD hitch, you will have absolutely zero issues.

 

[Aandrews109]

Do you mean adjustments to the Weight Distribution Hitch? I bought a 23 Tremor recently and I’ll be towing come summer a TT of Dry 4300 lbs, Cargo Capacity 1416 lbs and Hitch weight 434 lbs. I’m getting a RC 2.5” level kit (which replaces the coil over and puts a 1” rear block). I have an Equal-i-zer WD hitch rated for 10k lbs. I don’t have the tools to adjust it so I’m going come May to local RV shop for it. I’ll make sure they follow manufacturer instructions. Tips ?? I also have Raptor wheels take offs with 315/70R17 KO2.

My setup is very similar to what you will have.
‘23 Tremor, 2” ReadyLift level, stock rear, about 1 1/2” taller in rear unloaded.
Pulling a 26’ TT (dry 4,700 / loaded 7,000) Curt 2P LL Hitch rated at 10,000 lbs. / 1,000 tongue weight. Trailer is about 650 Tongue weight loaded.
Running almost completely level when towing.
No issues at all and truck pulls it well with no sway.
Just pulled from Florida to New Mexico, lost of wind in west Texas on I-10. You can tell there is wind blowing, but never any feeling of loss of control.
Have the same wheel / tire combo you’re running.

 

[BillfLang]

Anyone towing larger toys haulers with there Tremors?
I'm seeing that the tongue weight is pretty high on some of these. Basically meant to loaded to get the tongue weight down to a manageable level.
Not an issue for weekends we are going racing. But for weekends that we are using it as a normal camper, what do you guys do to add ballast back?
The tremor has 11k towing ability, with 1550 payload. I will be using a weight distribution hitch, and have air bags. (i know the bags don't change weights) The WDH will transfer some weight back to the camper, so i will gain some payload back.
The camper I'm looking at is 8700lbs dry with 1450 tongue weight. On a race weekend, it will be easy to get it down to 1000 lbs tongue weight (cargo in garage) which gives me enough payload for me and the family.
I realize this is on the upper end of the truck, but should be within specs.
What do you guys use for ballast when your not towing toys?
FYI my last camper was 33' (inside) long and 8k empty. Probably closer to 9k normal. And the truck handled it perfectly fine.

Also no mountains or grades. I live in iowa, and its flat.

You should have went with the F 250 Tremor. I almost went with the 250 but I didn’t pull much around. We have a F 250 FX4 2016 for that. Pulling is no problem at all. Gas mileage sucks , but it is what it is.

 

[Burns363R]

Maybe, but the 150 tremor handles pretty darn well. And my daily driving is much better than a 250.

 

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You should have went with the F 250 Tremor. I almost went with the 250 but I didn’t pull much around. We have a F 250 FX4 2016 for that. Pulling is no problem at all. Gas mileage sucks , but it is what it is.

Agreed that is 250 territory

 

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Maybe, but the 150 tremor handles pretty darn well. And my daily driving is much better than a 250.

Obviously your better daily driver is 150. But if you were doing it right you should have a 250 for that especially when wet and loaded for trip.

 

[Burns363R]

Id argue that since it tows it easily that its good enough. But yes if you want compromise daily driving, the 250 would be better suited for any load than a 150 would.

 

[112]

Id argue that since it tows it easily that its good enough. But yes if you want compromise daily driving, the 250 would be better suited for any load than a 150 would.

It pulls it fine because engine which is fully up to the task. What you are missing is the difference in frame size, axels, transmission, and brakes on a SD. That what makes the pull the safer smarter option. I would never buy a half ton to pull it at or near max towing capacity on a regular basis.
1450 TW is too much for a 150

 

[Burns363R]

You thinking that the axles and transmission will fail pulling at the max tow limit of the f150? And if the F150 brakes stop the trailer in a safe distance that isn't good enough?

We all agree the f250 is better suited to tow at any weight than a f150. But you just arbitrarily saying that a f150 towing 11k is unsafe is baseless. You are literally basing it on zero facts.

 

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You thinking that the axles and transmission will fail pulling at the max tow limit of the f150? And if the F150 brakes stop the trailer in a safe distance that isn't good enough?

We all agree the f250 is better suited to tow at any weight than a f150. But you just arbitrarily saying that a f150 towing 11k is unsafe is baseless. You are literally basing it on zero facts.

Since you don’t know how to do your own fact checking.
Go to any legitimate rv dealer or ford dealer and speak to service not sales. Nobody will tell you it’s a good idea to tow 11k with 1450 TW with a tremor 150. Can you yes, should you no.

 

[roxbury29]

May need some help... Usually just haul stuff with work 300-1500pounds ( avg 700-ish )
*I will be picking up our first Travel Trailer soon.
Jayco 25RB ( 800 hitch, 6100 empty/8000 loaded ) right at 30ft.
*Plan on adding RAS prior to towing, and WDH.

I current sit with about level, maybe 1" rake w/ 2.5AS level kit, and rides great.
Planned on a 27ft and lighter TT, but got a better deal on this one, Am I over-doing it, with my F150-Tremor ?
The dealer said I should be good with the weights, Weight Dist.Hitch and the RAS..

 

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May need some help... Usually just haul stuff with work 300-1500pounds ( avg 700-ish )
*I will be picking up our first Travel Trailer soon.
Jayco 25RB ( 800 hitch, 6100 empty/8000 loaded ) right at 30ft.
*Plan on adding RAS prior to towing, and WDH.

I current sit with about level, maybe 1" rake w/ 2.5AS level kit, and rides great.
Planned on a 27ft and lighter TT, but got a better deal on this one, Am I over-doing it, with my F150-Tremor ?
The dealer said I should be good with the weights, Weight Dist.Hitch and the RAS..

I would say you’re on the higher end of spectrum but still within safe limits. But I definitely wouldn’t go over that…