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Well I just heard back from my first dealer. Its a major no go. He has no Raptor allocations for 2022 because He has to roll the 2021's that weren't delivered. Than he said on a Tremor order it will be MSRP. NO WAY am I paying MSRP on a 6 month order.
Keep shopping, guys are still finding Gen 3 Raptors at MSRP.
 
This is the e-mail he sent me.

Sounds good. Not trying to be rude, but your going to find out real quick that MSRP on a Tremor order is a great deal. Other stores are going to want 5-10K over MSRP. Let me know if I can help Alex. I would normally have 200-300 vehicles in stock like Im sure you have seen over the years. I currently have 2 new cars in stock and its been this way for 7+ months now. Same with most stores, you have a nation wide new vehicle shortage. I would be suprised if you find anyone to order one for less then MSRP.
Robert F. Barranger Jr.
Larson Ford
(732) 363-8100 Ext.514
 
This is the e-mail he sent me.

Sounds good. Not trying to be rude, but your going to find out real quick that MSRP on a Tremor order is a great deal. Other stores are going to want 5-10K over MSRP. Let me know if I can help Alex. I would normally have 200-300 vehicles in stock like Im sure you have seen over the years. I currently have 2 new cars in stock and its been this way for 7+ months now. Same with most stores, you have a nation wide new vehicle shortage. I would be suprised if you find anyone to order one for less then MSRP.
Robert F. Barranger Jr.
Larson Ford
(732) 363-8100 Ext.514
Send Robert a quote from granger and tell him to pound sand.
 
This is the e-mail he sent me.

Sounds good. Not trying to be rude, but your going to find out real quick that MSRP on a Tremor order is a great deal. Other stores are going to want 5-10K over MSRP. Let me know if I can help Alex. I would normally have 200-300 vehicles in stock like Im sure you have seen over the years. I currently have 2 new cars in stock and its been this way for 7+ months now. Same with most stores, you have a nation wide new vehicle shortage. I would be suprised if you find anyone to order one for less then MSRP.
Robert F. Barranger Jr.
Larson Ford
(732) 363-8100 Ext.514
That's bullshit! We are seeing plenty for MSRP around the interwebs. Tell him he better get online and enlighten himself.
 
@RotorHead695 All of this makes perfect sense. Can we see the rig?! Also, what is your payload?
Just realized I didn't answer your question. You asking what my payload capacity is or what I usually haul? Between canopy and my gear in the back, I run around with 400 lbs in the bed of the truck. Right now I tow up to 5,000 lbs. The Deaver +3 HD springs will greatly raise my payload capacity along with improving the ride and performance both on and off-road. Already ordered them and scheduled for install in 2 weeks.
 
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@deucedevil - Here is a pic of my Raptor payload sticker:

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Dealer texted me a pic of the truck I ordered last night asking me if I was sure I didn't want it. Lead Foot Tremor sitting at Suburban Ford in Sandy, OR if anyone is looking for one.
 
Just saw my first one in person and it didn’t emotionally go the way I thought it would. I expected it to push me towards the truck I have on order. I’m not sure I can let go of my Raptor. 🤬🤔

I need to sleep on things.
I traded in my 17 raptor on my 21 tremor and I don’t regret anything.
Like the options on 402A
Has all that I need for me.
 
I traded in my 17 raptor on my 21 tremor and I don’t regret anything.
Like the options on 402A
Has all that I need for me.
I do wish I had the new tech. Other than that is was just refinement issues and looks. Things like how the rear fender ties into the rear bumper, carbon fiber trim and overall aggressiveness. Even if they had done minor things to the Tremor like fender flares, it would have been a huge help. I just expected more of those small things with the price point being so close to the Raptor.

We still have a Jeep and I'm not out of my towing range yet, so just couldn't do it. I'm going back to my original plan of keeping my Gen 2 until year 3 or 4 of the Gen 3s and I'll reevaluate my needs at that time.
 
Well, my evil plan is in motion. My truck is on the train to KC and I spoke with Jay@Granger. He'll be covering my truck in XPEL stealth before I pick it up.
I'm thinking that and floor mats and you'll be back on the Tremor bandwagon. Getting the tremors as it were.
Oh and badges? We don't need no stinking badges.
 
Well, my evil plan is in motion. My truck is on the train to KC and I spoke with Jay@Granger. He'll be covering my truck in XPEL stealth before I pick it up.
I'm thinking that and floor mats and you'll be back on the Tremor bandwagon. Getting the tremors as it were.
Oh and badges? We don't need no stinking badges.
Congrats! Are you doing partial or full vehicle wrap? Is Granger experienced in application?
 
I'm doing a full. Granger uses XPEL which was my wrap of choice. He sent me a few recent wraps that he's done and they look good over a text picture with 53 year old eyes :). I'll be posting like a 14 year old girl when I go to pick it up. My first eyes on my truck will be fully wrapped.
 
I'm doing a full. Granger uses XPEL which was my wrap of choice. He sent me a few recent wraps that he's done and they look good over a text picture with 53 year old eyes :). I'll be posting like a 14 year old girl when I go to pick it up. My first eyes on my truck will be fully wrapped.
Can't wait to see it! Mine is currently scheduled to be built the week of 12/13, hoping to pick it up in January. Is Jay the person to get pricing info from on the wrap?
 
Can't wait to see it! Mine is currently scheduled to be built the week of 12/13, hoping to pick it up in January. Is Jay the person to get pricing info from on the wrap?
yeah. Jay at Granger ford. I'll PM his phone to you. shoot him a text.
 
I traded in my 17 raptor on my 21 tremor and I don’t regret anything.
Like the options on 402A
Has all that I need for me.
I did the exact same thing. ‘17 Raptor for ‘21 tremor. Financially, it was stupid not to! And I have no regrets. Very similar for my purposes
 
That’s disappointing. I’ve never seen one in the wild yet. I hate to hear it’s not all you hoped it would be. I hope I don’t have that same problem.
I saw one, and I was pleasantly surprised. I think it depends on what your brain is comparing it to or what other trucks you are benchmarking it against. vs. Raptor Gen 1 or Gen 2 it simply will not impress you if you want that presence, the width, and the all out off road performance; if you're comparing it to a Tundra, F150 (FX4), GMC Ram.... I was very impressed with it and it met my expectations. The rake is weird, but that can be fixed, and it's towing capacity is much higher than the raptor (less problems w/recalls on the standard eco boost as well); it is a premium truck w/good features and it looks different than the other 150s.... But, if you want a Raptor, or are trying to benchmark it against a Raptor, everything else will disappoint. In my opinion
 
how do you like the smart cap? im eyeing it for my tremor.
I love it. Good quality and the positive pressure air vent is great. A couple things to note that could be a concern for you, but doesn't really bother me. The latches freeze more easily that a typical canopy latch design and a little water gets through the positive pressure air vent when going through car washes. They also have a model out now without the glass side doors and instead they are solid with MOLLE webbing inside. I would have preferred that.
 

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