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Thanks, I need to add this to my post. Looks just like the RC kits. It’s a good looking set up and probably 5 times better than the RC. I don’t know how much you plan on hauling and how often. But if you like the performance you can always add air bags to the rear. I just did this to my truck as its almost dead level and the Tremor is super soft in the back. With the Daystar cradles you wont loose any articulation, gains some stability while towing or hauling and keep the level look. It was a no brainer for me when i see people posting boats with 500-700 lbs tongue weight leveling the truck.
I’ve had an air lift bag setup on a Cummins in the past. I liked it other than I had a couple of bags go bad on me which was annoying. I looked a little bit into the RAS and it looked like a pretty slick setup and not super expensive. Definitely options to consider at least.
 
So in a jiffy, no coil over or springs available as of now, and the Eibach was a disappointment according to one of the member here.

AS Spacer is about as good as it gets in terms of getting our truck leveled?
 
So in a jiffy, no coil over or springs available as of now, and the Eibach was a disappointment according to one of the member here.

AS Spacer is about as good as it gets in terms of getting our truck leveled?
The Eibach is fine if you are ok with having zero rake. That’s where the majority of my frustration comes from.
 
The Eibach is fine if you are ok with having zero rake. That’s where the majority of my frustration comes from.

Okay so... id say MOST would want zero rake, but i am guessing you wanted a small amount of rake for towing purpose?
 
I’ll clarify. There’s no negatives to the ride. It’s feels more firm to me, but it’s definitely not bad. It’s probably the best option available if you are ok with being dead level and having zero rake. It’s unfortunate and frustrating to me that it’s adjustable from 2.7” to I believe 3.4”. My opinion is they should’ve made it adjustable from 2 to 2.7” and I really thought based off of the website specs that that’s how it would be. I can see no purpose in having it adjustable to 3.4” as that will absolutely put you nose high after you’ve put some miles on your truck. It’s my guess that this was probably a rushed oversight on their part and they tested it on a truck with very few miles that hadn’t settled. As I mentioned before, my truck when new was pushing 4” of rake. Knowing that, it would make sense that they would design it to be from 2.7-3.4 because that would give you the option of having some rake to dead level. Just my semi educated guess. As another member said on here once, I’m more of a crayon and colored pencil guy.
 
Okay so... id say MOST would want zero rake, but i am guessing you wanted a small amount of rake for towing purpose?
Yes. Not something I do a ton of but don’t want to look like an idiot and have led steering control while doing it. It could be remedied with air bags or the RAS but that’s just more money and another rabbit hole I didn’t think I would have any need to go down.
 
So in a jiffy, no coil over or springs available as of now, and the Eibach was a disappointment according to one of the member here.

AS Spacer is about as good as it gets in terms of getting our truck leveled?
I’m telling y’all, Ford set the bar so low with the front suspension that the rough country 2.5” coil overs are a drastic improvement all around.

IMO the spacers would be fine if they hadn’t used curly fries for springs and mashed potato-charged shocks, but they did.
 
@MOHunter, you could always put a taller lift block in the back to get some rake back. Much cheaper and easier than bags, RAS, springs, etc. Some of the rear shock solutions appear to raise the rear an inch or so too.
Round and round we go on the front. :rolleyes: It seems 2.5” and higher really starts to push the CV angles to a point people are not comfortable. I can’t imagine what 3”+ looks like.
I’m still in the “AS 2 inch spacer until something better comes out”. Seems like folks are all over the place on the RC coil overs and now the Eibach kits.
 
@MOHunter, you could always put a taller lift block in the back to get some rake back. Much cheaper and easier than bags, RAS, springs, etc. Some of the rear shock solutions appear to raise the rear an inch or so too.
Round and round we go on the front. :rolleyes: It seems 2.5” and higher really starts to push the CV angles to a point people are not comfortable. I can’t imagine what 3”+ looks like.
I’m still in the “AS 2 inch spacer until something better comes out”. Seems like folks are all over the place on the RC coil overs and now the Eibach kits.
I’ve read through that rear shock thread a hundred times and it just makes my head spin. I just need someone to tell me if there’s a current option out that I can use that will raise the rear around an inch and improve my ride or at the very least not hurt the ride. Even with having this 1/4” of rake there’s something about the design of this truck that still is making it look nose high to me and I can’t put my finger on it. I posted an underneath photo a few posts back but I have no idea how steep is too steep when looking at it….. colored pencils
 
I’m telling y’all, Ford set the bar so low with the front suspension that the rough country 2.5” coil overs are a drastic improvement all around.

IMO the spacers would be fine if they hadn’t used curly fries for springs and mashed potato-charged shocks, but they did.
I have the AS spacers and it's fine. I'll wait until fox comes out with a set, rather than spend money on RC coils I know I'll replace when a better set comes out.
 
I have the AS spacers and it's fine. I'll wait until fox comes out with a set, rather than spend money on RC coils I know I'll replace when a better set comes out.
Yeah I feel you. I’ll replace them for the same reason. If someone is happy with stock there’s no reason for them, but the guy I was replying to seems under the impression there’s no coil over option.

I’m waiting for RCs reputation to shine through and one of my struts to send a spring through the hood 🤣
 
Has anyone done the Eibach struts with stock coils? Should give less lift up front thereby retaining some rake.
 
Has anyone done the Eibach struts with stock coils? Should give less lift up front thereby retaining some rake.
I asked the dealer who put mine on about doing that instead and according to him it would compress the factory coil enough that it would ride bad. I honestly don’t have a clue but he didn’t really want to try it on mine because he was pretty convinced of that. I’m sure he would do it if I really wanted him to but I guess I just took his word for it. I’d kind of like to know the real world result of doing it but I don’t like the idea of paying to see after he seemed so convincing.
 
I asked the dealer who put mine on about doing that instead and according to him it would compress the factory coil enough that it would ride bad. I honestly don’t have a clue but he didn’t really want to try it on mine because he was pretty convinced of that. I’m sure he would do it if I really wanted him to but I guess I just took his word for it. I’d kind of like to know the real world result of doing it but I don’t like the idea of paying to see after he seemed so convincing.
He probably wanted to sell you something that cost more, ie. the new coil here. IMO keeping the stock coil usually gives a softer/more comfortable ride, but there are trade offs. If I ever get my Tremor I plan to go this route, but at this rate I wont have feedback to give until 2024.
 
He probably wanted to sell you something that cost more, ie. the new coil here. IMO keeping the stock coil usually gives a softer/more comfortable ride, but there are trade offs. If I ever get my Tremor I plan to go this route, but at this rate I wont have feedback to give until 2024.
He didn’t sell me any parts, I bought them all and brought them in. He’s a friend of a friend and would’ve made more money by me paying him to take off the Eibachs I paid him to put on to redo it with the factory coils. I just don’t know enough to know if what he told me is accurate and assumed he was correct.
 
He didn’t sell me any parts, I bought them all and brought them in. He’s a friend of a friend and would’ve made more money by me paying him to take off the Eibachs I paid him to put on to redo it with the factory coils. I just don’t know enough to know if what he told me is accurate and assumed he was correct.
I wouldnt say he is incorrect. The hard thing with shocks/suspension/ride quality is that it is all subjective. There are tons of people who swear by Bilsteins on F150s and Rams. Personally, I think they ride like crap and are too stiff, but I guess that means I am getting old, so I prefer a ride that sticks with the stock coils and thereby the stock stiffness to a certain degree. In my experience different springs will stiffen up a ride much more than just shocks, especially taller/lifted springs. There are of course exceptions to everything. I do generally swap out the shocks though (front and rear) to give a bit of a different feel. IMO the Eibachs up front with stock coils on my '17 feel smoother than the stock shocks, and the rear ends on F150s tend to bounce more than I would like, so a stiffer valved shock in the rear is better for my liking (I personally like the Fox 2.0s).
 
I wouldnt say he is incorrect. The hard thing with shocks/suspension/ride quality is that it is all subjective. There are tons of people who swear by Bilsteins on F150s and Rams. Personally, I think they ride like crap and are too stiff, but I guess that means I am getting old, so I prefer a ride that sticks with the stock coils and thereby the stock stiffness to a certain degree. In my experience different springs will stiffen up a ride much more than just shocks, especially taller/lifted springs. There are of course exceptions to everything. I do generally swap out the shocks though (front and rear) to give a bit of a different feel. IMO the Eibachs up front with stock coils on my '17 feel smoother than the stock shocks, and the rear ends on F150s tend to bounce more than I would like, so a stiffer valved shock in the rear is better for my liking (I personally like the Fox 2.0s).
What you are saying makes sense. He just seemed absolutely certain I wouldn’t like it and he had nothing to gain from telling me that. Guess I could always pay to have it done and see. It would suck really bad though if I did and he was right and then had to pay to get it redone for a third time. Plus the added factor of him saying “I told you so “. :)
 
That's terrific that the Ford dealership installed the Fox for you. It looks great. I've tried to go that route and contacted Fox and they recommended that I don't do that yet because they didn't have enough info from their R and D.
 
After putting a couple of hundred miles on the Eibach lift springs and shocks I felt compelled to update my thoughts on it. Most of the miles I’ve put on so far have been driven on worn out, busted up, two lane pothole pavement and I’ll say it handles great. I find myself running 75 down these roads and not even realize it. There are places in the roads around here that you always slow down for because they are that bad and I’ve been intentionally going at them at speed and I’m honestly impressed. The only thing that would probably make it feel better would me some rear shocks to go with it. Any unwanted bounce I get seems to be felt in the back. I’m still disappointed in the fact that I can’t get the rake I desired out of it and I had really considered taking the springs off but after driving it and feeling it I believe I’ll be leaving it on. If you are looking for a level and you are ok with no rake then I’d say this is definitely something you want to try for the money. For those curious, it seems to have dropped my mileage by about 2 mpg but that’s approximate. I’ve basically went from around 18.5 mpg to 16.5 mpg but that’s according to the computer. I haven’t hand checked that yet but my computer was pretty accurate pre level. I will say I’ve been driving a little harder than normal as well just to try these things out.
 
So, I had an interesting conversation today with an off-road/repair shop. They do A LOT of the lift kits and stuff for the dealerships around. They've lifted/leveled over 20 tremors and lift over 30 trucks a month.

They won't install levels like the AS (that mount on top of the strut assembly) on the Tremors because it can cause the electronic hub to throw an error due to the shaft being more than 16° in 4x4.

Long story short, they have meticulously gone over comparing part numbers for Tremors and various F-150's. They have determined, in conjunction with my local dealership, that the lift of the Tremor comes from the spring. Because if this they will only install things like coilovers and pro comp kits that add preload to level.

In addition, they have indicated that all of the kits that work for the F150s will work for the tremor, they just provide 1/2" - 3/4" less of lift; that they have tested/installed many and it holds true.

Any thoughts on this or counter arguments that show otherwise?
 
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