Thanks for that. I'll probably pick up my road set from them. These grabbers have great traction and are quiet but soft as puppy mud. I just got the Geolandar G003 in for test fitment. It'll take a few days to get that mounted but otherwise this thing looks good.
I've had Ridge Grapplers before and concur with your statement. Hated them so much I got rid of them before being at 50% of remaining life.
What's the use case? For me, I would (and did) go with G003 but that's because I use them off road and need a high level of traction. For an AT, there are a bunch of options/opinions including the e rated general. Other than the weight/load rating, the tires are great for normal pavement and dirt roads. But again, soooo many opinions
Took the words out of my mouth. Really depends on what environment you'll be using them in and if things like noise vs traction matter to you. I prefer the Duratracs for snow/ice, and general off-road capabilities. They can be louder than most AT's, but are more aggressive without going full MT. MTs traditionally don't do as well in the snow/ice either because of less siping. Duratracs also have thinner sidewalls than some other tires, so if in extremely rocky terrain, might not be a good fit. That said, I like the sidewall flex they provide when aired down and are lighter than a lot of competitors.
I agree 100% on that, brakes and tires are the most important piece of the vehicle, they are what keeps the vehicle safe for my family. Sadly that's why I went away from BFG KO's I understand with the latest update they have changed the compound some but I still hear the same comments that after about 25-30k they start getting slippery on wet roads. I will say that both the grabbers and the Falken at3w do not, that's why both of those have been my go to tire for some time, I tried the open country AT 2 and the traction off road just wasn't there for me, the at3w has been the tire that I've been most impressed with, it works in everything I've thrown at it, snow,ice, mud- just spin the tires a little faster to clean out, grass, wet roads, and rocks. They were easily balanced, not noisy, and rode exceptionally well.
My biggest complaint about the Toyo AT2's or 3's are once you go off roading, like real off roading. They chunk up and then the tire starts coming apart and cupping like crazy. Toyo did pro rate them for me, but its not enough. The RT's don't do this but have terrible snow and rain traction. I had to put my truck in four wheel drive and lock the rear diff to pull by boat in and out of the water on concrete ramps. Never had to do that with any other tire. The Toyo MT is the best A/T tire Toyo makes IMO.
I had a set of BFG KO2's on my Tundra. The tire did wear well, but (as noted) after 40K miles, I did note the slipping and spinning issue in wet.
The at3w doesn't pick up and sling as much gravel as the grabbers do, that is the one of plus, they both look good but I think the grabber just has a slightly more aggressive look, I will say when it comes to towing the at3w works great, I recommended them to a buddy who has a 350 and he swears by them now. He uses it to pull backhoes, skid steers, and other construction related stuff. The current set he has around 45k on.
It's your call they seem to be good tires for the first 30-40k after that the seem to get slick on wet roads, if it's a killer deal and you live in a less rainy environment go for it.
