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Looks great, how do you like the auto spring ride? I find it same as factory, I'm very happy.
Zero difference in the ride. Strange that other spacers out there with people commenting about a decrease in ride quality. I would think it would affect the same across all brands. Also i noticed that i can see out the rear window a bit better since there is less of an angle.
 
Zero difference in the ride. Strange that other spacers out there with people commenting about a decrease in ride quality. I would think it would affect the same across all brands. Also i noticed that i can see out the rear window a bit better since there is less of an angle.
Nice 👍
 
Do we know if the factory termor coil overs are longer or taller whatever you want to say vs a standard f150? Got.my rough country coilvoer level kit installed. Would there be a market for my.factory tremor.stuff ?
 
Zero difference in the ride. Strange that other spacers out there with people commenting about a decrease in ride quality. I would think it would affect the same across all brands.
It is the same, it’s just in people’s heads. Ride quality is subjective. If you stick with stock springs then the ride should stay basically the same, but the geometry does change a bit so it could feel a bit different. I always do spacers over cheap coils (Icon, Fox and King would be good options IMO, but super pricey). I have never been a fan of RC, so my plan is to get spacers when my truck comes in and stick with stock springs. Has always worked well for me in the past. Not sure what the hold up is in any brand officially offering a spacer for the Tremor.
 
It is the same, it’s just in people’s heads. Ride quality is subjective. If you stick with stock springs then the ride should stay basically the same, but the geometry does change a bit so it could feel a bit different. I always do spacers over cheap coils (Icon, Fox and King would be good options IMO, but super pricey). I have never been a fan of RC, so my plan is to get spacers when my truck comes in and stick with stock springs. Has always worked well for me in the past. Not sure what the hold up is in any brand officially offering a spacer for the Tremor.
Remember the Pro comp kit and some others add preload that does change the ride ever so slightly.
 
Not sure what the hold up is in any brand officially offering a spacer for the Tremor.

Maybe something to do with the stock ride height being up 1" on the F-150 already? A 1.5" spacer kit would then basically be a 2.5" over a base truck, and pushing the limits for "responsible" brands. You already have to cut the stock studs for a 1.5" spacer, and would anyone want to even run a 1" spacer? Only thing I can think of at the moment.

Remember the Pro comp kit and some others add preload that does change the ride ever so slightly.

Coming from a performance car background, I am beginning to think the massive increase in front roll center height might also make people feel the front is "stiff" or "firm." This would translate as less roll for a given spring rate. There could also be some scrubbing from the tire moving laterally as it goes into bump, which would transmit a bit more NVH.

I haven't even considered bump-steer yet.
 
Maybe something to do with the stock ride height being up 1" on the F-150 already? A 1.5" spacer kit would then basically be a 2.5" over a base truck, and pushing the limits for "responsible" brands. You already have to cut the stock studs for a 1.5" spacer, and would anyone want to even run a 1" spacer? Only thing I can think of at the moment.
For a 1" spacer you could be right, but most people are doing 2-2.5" ones. And the Tremor receives its 1" stock lift via different UCA and knuckle from the regular F150, so its not an apples to apples comparison. The 2 main issues with lifting the front too much are CV angles and the coils potentially making contact with the UCA at full droop. Thus far those who have done the 2.5" lifts on a Tremor seem to have CV angles in line with those who do a 2.5" on a regular F150. There are a few reports on Tremors with 2.5" spacers having spring contact issues at full droop, so maybe it is something along those lines. I cant figure out how the RC loaded strut kit doesn't have this issue that as the geometry between a spacer and a entire new strut assembly will be the same.
 
I haven’t seen anyone post information about the Ford Fox 2.0. I just purchase the Tremor and the dealership put on the Fox. Truck rides better and it lifted the front at least 2”. See pictures
Awesome that you did that! I was wondering if the 2.0 Fox would lift the Tremor as much as it says it will for the regular F150s.
Eventually Im going to get these installed. I figure Ill ride out the shocks I have from the factory for a year or two before switching.
Thanks for the info!
 
And the Tremor receives its 1" stock lift via different UCA and knuckle from the regular F150, so its not an apples to apples comparison.

The UCA could in no way lift the ride height of the car, and the knuckle would need to move the hub location down into where the lower ball joint is to have any effect on the ride height. Ford says they are different, but I would bet that it pertains to alignment at the new ride height, and maybe steering arm location for the same issue, and nothing more.

Thus far those who have done the 2.5" lifts on a Tremor seem to have CV angles in line with those who do a 2.5" on a regular F150. There are a few reports on Tremors with 2.5" spacers having spring contact issues at full droop, so maybe it is something along those lines. I cant figure out how the RC loaded strut kit doesn't have this issue that as the geometry between a spacer and a entire new strut assembly will be the same.

My comment was about why a company with a reputation to keep would take more time to understand all the specifics of the platform before releasing any product. There is a divide between "looks like it works" and "everything is measured to be within the parameters we designed for the part and it's operation."

"If you're not measuring, you're guessing." There have been some numbers thrown around for components, but I haven't seen anything put together in one place to make sense of it all. Just the same tribal conjecture that seems to endure.
 
The UCA could in no way lift the ride height of the car, and the knuckle would need to move the hub location down into where the lower ball joint is to have any effect on the ride height. Ford says they are different, but I would bet that it pertains to alignment at the new ride height, and maybe steering arm location for the same issue, and nothing more.

My comment was about why a company with a reputation to keep would take more time to understand all the specifics of the platform before releasing any product. There is a divide between "looks like it works" and "everything is measured to be within the parameters we designed for the part and it's operation."

"If you're not measuring, you're guessing." There have been some numbers thrown around for components, but I haven't seen anything put together in one place to make sense of it all. Just the same tribal conjecture that seems to endure.
Agree with everything you said. I find it interesting that Ford only talks about the UCA and knuckle being different in order to achieve the factory lift. I would think either the coil or the strut (and where the coil sits on the strut) would also have to be different. Haven't seen anyone compare those (or even the UCA or knuckle) to a regular F150. Those comparisons would be interesting.

I get the liability and/or reputation portion of it for companies to officially state their lifts work on the Tremor, and maybe the Tremor segment is too small at the moment for many of them to put much time into it.
 
Agree with everything you said. I find it interesting that Ford only talks about the UCA and knuckle being different in order to achieve the factory lift. I would think either the coil or the strut (and where the coil sits on the strut) would also have to be different. Haven't seen anyone compare those (or even the UCA or knuckle) to a regular F150. Those comparisons would be interesting.

They do say the dampers are different. My WAG would be spring preload.

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To add to everyone's happy place, Roush has their own brand of coilovers for '22
 
To add to everyone's happy place, Roush has their own brand of coilovers for '22
What about these? Are they the ones that aren't confirmed for a tremor yet? They look like they would work.

 
What about these? Are they the ones that aren't confirmed for a tremor yet? They look like they would work.

I believe these are the ones we are all are talking about. They may be the same ones that Ford currently offers but labeled differently. Roush told me they are not for the Tremors but I believe guys have installed these and the Ford labeled ones on the Tremors. Seems like there are no problems. I guess that is the whole debate here. Some feel there are no problems with installing them. Some feel they are not Tremor specific, so there may be problems possibly. I think some Ford Dealerships are installing them too on the Tremors. For myself, I am waiting for Tremor specific parts but if I had to put money on it, the parts for the Tremor would probably be the same as these current parts. Maybe different springs etc. but as far as fitting, it would all line up. Of course I am not a Mechanic or Engineer but I did stay at a Holiday Express Inn last night.
 
What about these? Are they the ones that aren't confirmed for a tremor yet? They look like they would work.

I think they will definitely fit like a lot of the pre-MY21 sets. The rub is getting 2" of lift for our Tremors while having ride height sit at ~60% of the coilover's articulation
 
I think they will definitely fit like a lot of the pre-MY21 sets. The rub is getting 2" of lift for our Tremors while having ride height sit at ~60% of the coilover's articulation
So because tremor is higher stock, for us to get the 2" up front, we'd be around 60% of these coilovers spread? Is that a high tension for them to constantly be under, or does it affect performance?
 
I got those eibachs in a week ago and finally bought a torque wrench and extension yesterday. Couldn't bring myself to pay someone to install something as simple as rear shocks but been too lazy. I'll make sure to post comparison pics before installation even if it means hating myself for cutting a restraining strap early
 
I got those eibachs in a week ago and finally bought a torque wrench and extension yesterday. Couldn't bring myself to pay someone to install something as simple as rear shocks but been too lazy. I'll make sure to post comparison pics before installation even if it means hating myself for cutting a restraining strap early
I also got the Eibachs in this week, rear shocks and front coil overs . Hopefully get them installed this week.
 
I also got the Eibachs in this week, rear shocks and front coil overs . Hopefully get them installed this week.
Would you mind sending links to the Eibachs you are referencing? I did the RC front coils already, but def interested in upgrading the rear shocks since the stock ones are SO stiff.

I Might wait to hear your “after” review first before pulling the trigger 😀

Thanks in advance! and good luck with the install
 
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