Tremor Rear Shock Options

[Tremhunter]

So far from the truth. Are you new or a troll?

Just playing the devils advocate here a bit. I didn’t expect to have to ponder, question, and purchase add ons tailored to either towing or off roading to make it do what I thought it did from the factory.

 

[madeinchina]

Just playing the devils advocate here a bit. I didn’t expect to have to ponder, question, and purchase add ons tailored to either towing or off roading to make it do what I thought it did from the factory.

I guess its not too dissimilar to people itching to upgrade their TRD Pros or even Raptors. A lot of folks including myself starts new toy ownership by honing in on the lowest hanging fruit for improvements. Its just part of the hobby. The stock rears can do the job off-roading just fine, but it can be better for not so high a cost and is a relatively easy install.

 

[Yeti]

Looks good! For 90% those should work fine.

Honestly, I think the 5160s will be preferred by many if not most tremor owners. They are firm but not too much so. Road and off road driving and towing will be substantially improved. While the 5165 do extend to a bit more than OE, they are also a bit more restrictive (stiffer) and less likely to handle speed as well. If my use wasnt exclusively rough terrain/slow driving, I would stick with the 5160s after seeing how well they handled extreme articulation and the butt-o-meter telling me they're comfortable and more stabilizing.

 

[Yeti]

Just playing the devils advocate here a bit. I didn’t expect to have to ponder, question, and purchase add ons tailored to either towing or off roading to make it do what I thought it did from the factory.

Yeah, I get it. Coming from Ram, the suspension and tires were ready to use for rugged use. I assumed Ford would also put the buyer in that position.

That said, it's my own assumption (and the price tag) that caused the issue. Long term Ford guys already knew and were looking forward to the mods and aren't keen on admitting any shortfalls.

Ultimately, $200-400 rear shocks and $1,200 for specialized tires with everything else we get isn't a terrible price to pay to complete an otherwise fantastic truck

 

[madeinchina]

Received over the weekend. The wife was thrilled to see the truck accessories pile grow while the truck is still waiting for pick up at granger 1,000 miles away. Will report back hopefully next weekend. Pretty well made unit, knobs are stiff but have clear tactile feedback and feels durable.

 

[FaKtor34]

Yeah, I get it. Coming from Ram, the suspension and tires were ready to use for rugged use. I assumed Ford would also put the buyer in that position.

That said, it's my own assumption (and the price tag) that caused the issue. Long term Ford guys already knew and were looking forward to the mods and aren't keen on admitting any shortfalls.

Ultimately, $200-400 rear shocks and $1,200 for specialized tires with everything else we get isn't a terrible price to pay to complete an otherwise fantastic truck

Upfront if you know you want a different tire it would save money to have the dealer swap the tires to what you want, but most people upgrade tire size so unless you have the level and/or wheels ready to go it's not going to work. If sticking around stock tire size then save money and have dealer swap. Most will because those tires are a hot commodity with the F-150 xlt crowd.

 

[Yeti]

Well the 5165s are installed. My initial thought is F Bilstein.

The way they positioned and used the banjo fittings there is no good way to mount the passenger side. Had they used banjo fittings and a swivel hose, that would have at least been acceptable.
Driver side

Passenger side

From my initial 5 mile ride, they are definitely stiff. Well see if they smooth out after some miles like the 5160s did.

I'm looking forward to seeing how these things do with the added weight of the Super Pacific and will keep everyone updated.

 

[ChsTremor]

Honestly, I think the 5160s will be preferred by many if not most tremor owners. They are firm but not too much so. Road and off road driving and towing will be substantially improved. While the 5165 do extend to a bit more than OE, they are also a bit more restrictive (stiffer) and less likely to handle speed as well. If my use wasnt exclusively rough terrain/slow driving, I would stick with the 5160s after seeing how well they handled extreme articulation and the butt-o-meter telling me they're comfortable and more stabilizing.

Sounds like these and some limit straps might be a good combo?!?

 

[Yeti]

Sounds like these and some limit straps might be a good combo?!?

At speed, yes. If you're driving miss daisy, the limit straps shouldn't be needed but a good and cheap peace of mind.

 

[MOHunter]

Got these on. So far so good. I’ve been playing around with the settings trying to figure out what I prefer. I do like the adjustability and so far I’m satisfied with my choice.

 

[Fozzy]

Well the 5165s are installed. My initial thought is F Bilstein.

The way they positioned and used the banjo fittings there is no good way to mount the passenger side. Had they used banjo fittings and a swivel hose, that would have at least been acceptable.
Driver side
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Passenger side
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From my initial 5 mile ride, they are definitely stiff. Well see if they smooth out after some miles like the 5160s did.

I'm looking forward to seeing how these things do with the added weight of the Super Pacific and will keep everyone updated.

Use a universal mount and move the resi’s up in the fender. I had a set on a Ram mounted to the fender pinch weld location and they didn’t get to beat up at all.

 

[Yeti]

Use a universal mount and move the resi’s up in the fender. I had a set on a Ram mounted to the fender pinch weld location and they didn’t get to beat up at all.
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yeah, I was thinking inside the fender in front of the liners. I went to mount them on the frame but they would have been chewed up the next time someone called a flex-off. I was also thinking about swapping the resivoir. the 5160s were fine inverted and they didn't have the open end to collect water.

 

[Yeti]

Got these on. So far so good. I’ve been playing around with the settings trying to figure out what I prefer. I do like the adjustability and so far I’m satisfied with my choice.

And they're more comfortable because they look fantastic

 

[MOHunter]

And they're more comfortable because they look fantastic

I think they do look pretty sharp. I’m definitely running them firmer than I assumed I would be. At least for now. I have them set on 6 and I really figured I’d have them set around 3.

 

[Tremhunter]

Gosh darn it. Maybe I jumped the gun a bit. Patience has never been my virtue. Bilstein or bust.

 

[Charky]

After reviewing 21 pages of info, sounds like the Fox 98224828 with a 3/4" bump stop spacer or the Bilstein 5160 25-261400 would be good options for a daily driver who doesn't typically tow or haul heavy loads and with the occasional off-roading in the slow going muddy, rutty, rocky trails.
@Captain (Fox) and @Yeti (5160), you guys like your experiences with these?
For those with some background with both, anything that would sway you towards one or the other?
Thanks!

 

[Yeti]

After reviewing 21 pages of info, sounds like the Fox 98224828 with a 3/4" bump stop spacer or the Bilstein 5160 25-261400 would be good options for a daily driver who doesn't typically tow or haul heavy loads and with the occasional off-roading in the slow going muddy, rutty, rocky trails.
@Captain (Fox) and @Yeti (5160), you guys like your experiences with these?
For those with some background with both, anything that would sway you towards one or the other?
Thanks!

I do like the 5160s for that exact use. I do think the 5165s are going to suit my new weight requirements better which is the only reason I changed.

I may have a slightly used set of 5160s, shortly

 

[Hbjaybrd]

After spending entirely too much time reading through all of this, I am even more confused now then when I started. I am currently running the RC leveling kit including the smaller rear blocks. What shock and or shock length is recommended for this setup? I was leaning towards the Eibachs but have seen many say these are too short. Would these now be ok given the rear now sits lower than stock?

 

[Yeti]

After spending entirely too much time reading through all of this, I am even more confused now then when I started. I am currently running the RC leveling kit including the smaller rear blocks. What shock and or shock length is recommended for this setup? I was leaning towards the Eibachs but have seen many say these are too short. Would these now be ok given the rear now sits lower than stock?

Effectively, you want the new shock to be a smaller number than the OE shock when compressed. Ideally, you want the extended length to be the same size or longer than OE.

In your case, you can reduce the extended length of the OE shock by the reduction in block size.

I.e. you your old block was 2" and the new one was 1" and your OE shock length is 30.5", you should be good with a 29.5" shock

 

[Tremhunter]

Well the 5165s are installed. My initial thought is F Bilstein.

The way they positioned and used the banjo fittings there is no good way to mount the passenger side. Had they used banjo fittings and a swivel hose, that would have at least been acceptable.
Driver side
View attachment 5133

Passenger side
View attachment 5134


From my initial 5 mile ride, they are definitely stiff. Well see if they smooth out after some miles like the 5160s did.

I'm looking forward to seeing how these things do with the added weight of the Super Pacific and will keep everyone updated.

Can we modify to add swivel