Tremor Rear Shock Options

[CAMDENN]

Hello to everyone! I am very sorry but I have been all over in this thread and I’m just as lost as can be. I just did a Ready Lift Spacer 2 inch and put on some heavy tires. 285/75/18s they are 10 ply and weigh about 10 lbs more than the factory Grabbers. I feel that the factory shocks are going to suffer with these on there. Have we found something concrete that can be used for both front AND rear for these bad units of ours? I don’t do a lot of off roading. Just the odd trip once or twice a year down a forest service road so mostly looking for something with some comfort on the highway and that can properly handle the larger 35s I put on. Thanks a million guys. I apologize but I just got so lost reading through the thread.

How much do you want to spend?

 

[FaKtor34]

Hello to everyone! I am very sorry but I have been all over in this thread and I’m just as lost as can be. I just did a Ready Lift Spacer 2 inch and put on some heavy tires. 285/75/18s they are 10 ply and weigh about 10 lbs more than the factory Grabbers. I feel that the factory shocks are going to suffer with these on there. Have we found something concrete that can be used for both front AND rear for these bad units of ours? I don’t do a lot of off roading. Just the odd trip once or twice a year down a forest service road so mostly looking for something with some comfort on the highway and that can properly handle the larger 35s I put on. Thanks a million guys. I apologize but I just got so lost reading through the thread.

It all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend, RC has a cheaper solution, fox has a snap ring kit that works, Halo lifts has tremor specific setups that run from around $1700-$5000, Icon has Tremor specific setups that run from about 2k to 7k, Bilstein has the 5100 series which is fairly low cost, but my choice for bang for the buck would be the eibach set, there's a few different ones, here is one of my favorites.

Eibach E86-35-035-02-22 - Pro-Truck Coilover Stage 2R 15-20 Ford F-150 SuperCrew 3.5L V6 EcoBoost 4WD

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[Peltch92]

How much do you want to spend?

Usually my answer would be “cost is irrelevant” but honestly as much as I hate to admit it, cost is definitely relevant these days which is why I went to just the spacer style level kit. So something budget friendly would be nice. Ideally just a set of rear shocks and front struts to replace the factory ones and be as smooth as possibly while being able to deal with the larger heavier tires. Thanks for reaching out!

 

[Peltch92]

It all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend, RC has a cheaper solution, fox has a snap ring kit that works, Halo lifts has tremor specific setups that run from around $1700-$5000, Icon has Tremor specific setups that run from about 2k to 7k, Bilstein has the 5100 series which is fairly low cost, but my choice for bang for the buck would be the eibach set, there's a few different ones, here is one of my favorites.

Eibach E86-35-035-02-22 - Pro-Truck Coilover Stage 2R 15-20 Ford F-150 SuperCrew 3.5L V6 EcoBoost 4WD

CSPRacing. The leader in late model GM Performance. We offer tuning, installs, and performance auto parts.

www.cspracing.com

Have you ran these my good sir? How was the ride quality and will they handle the extra size and weight of my new rubber do you figure? Thanks a million for the reply.

 

[FaKtor34]

Have you ran these my good sir? How was the ride quality and will they handle the extra size and weight of my new rubber do you figure? Thanks a million for the reply.

I have not ran them but a few have ran variations of them. Have ran them on a previous vehicle and I really liked them. I'm still running stock suspension currently with heavy tires and have had no issues this far but when I do upgrade I will go with either those or the Halo lifts.

 

[Peltch92]

I have not ran them but a few have ran variations of them. Have ran them on a previous vehicle and I really liked them. I'm still running stock suspension currently with heavy tires and have had no issues this far but when I do upgrade I will go with either those or the Halo lifts.

Do you mind if I ask your current setup? Tires, lift, etc? Cheers and thanks again for the reply.

 

[FaKtor34]

Stock suspension, 295/70r18 Falken Wildpeak At3w tires, built rite system installed in the bed, tonneau cover, duha under rear seat storage, and a few other miscellaneous items.

 

[Peltch92]

Stock suspension, 295/70r18 Falken Wildpeak At3w tires, built rite system installed in the bed, tonneau cover, duha under rear seat storage, and a few other miscellaneous items.

What did you end up using for front lift? Just a spacer style like I went with I assume or did you jam them tires in there at factory height? Cheers.

 

[FaKtor34]

No lift

 

[FaKtor34]

With factory wheels they work, even flexing offroad, zero rub unless caked with mud

 

[Peltch92]

With factory wheels they work, even flexing offroad, zero rub unless caked with mud

That’s awesome, brother! Do you have a picture or two of how she looks? That’s really great. I just checked and that’s a 34.3 inch tall tire. That’s huge without lift.

 

[FaKtor34]

That’s awesome, brother! Do you have a picture or two of how she looks? That’s really great. I just checked and that’s a 34.3 inch tall tire. That’s huge without lift.

Post in thread 'Larger tires on stock suspension and 18" wheels?' https://www.f150tremor.com/threads/larger-tires-on-stock-suspension-and-18-wheels.3188/post-49009

 

[traymore]

@Yeti, I am currently deciding on my camping setup, so I am trying to get a good estimate of weight before I decide on the 5160 or 5165. Since you have experience with both, at what weight do you start to recommend the 5165 over the 5160? Basically what is the minimum permanent weight in the bed you would recommend before using the 5165? Or in other words what’s the best setup between the 2 versions at 0lbs, 200 lbs, 500 lbs, 800+ lbs..?

Also, @Yeti if your wife has a Bronco with the Sasquatch/Bilsteins, I would love to hear how they compare with the 5160 and the 5165 on the Tremor. I have been offroading and camping with that setup for 2 years, so it would give me a good comparison.
If I had to compare the Bronco Bilsteins with the stock Tremor, I would say the Tremor is much softer, has more body roll but is as result smoother on small road imperfections. Offroad, the Tremor is also much softer than the Bronco, resulting in bottoming out much more. I can drive the Bronco at twice the speed on most trails than I can the Tremor, and I know the suspension saves my butt when I did not see a hole or small whoop but would be more punishing on the stock Tremor.
Even loaded with 500lbs of gear and roof top tent, the Bronco still outperforms my stock Tremor offroad thanks to the Bilsteins with the position sensitive dampers.

Ideally, I would like the suspension upgrad to perform as good if not better than the Bronco, hopefully that’s a realistic expectation.

Thanks you!

 

[Yeti]

I was under the impression the new Icon are also shorter like the 5160, is that not the case?
If the Icon is the perfect spec for tremor, is that really a much better option than the 5160 / 5165, did someone actually compare the 2?

Same question with Halo.

I was under the impression that Bilstein offers 90% of the performance of the big names (king, fox..) for half or a third of the cost. From my online reading, the true worthwhile investment in this game is the 8112 but that’s not an option unfortunately.

Can I expect at least as good of a performance or better (high speed offroad) with the 6112 / 5165 combo than on my Bronco Sasquatch with the stock Bilstein? Stock Bilsteins on the Bronco are similar to 5160 (piston size and external resy) but with ESCV so it’s a better tech. See picture. They let me drive without too much body roll and at 70 mph over potholes, small whoops and washboard. Loaded with gear I bottom out easy on woops at above 30mph though and wouldn’t mind a bit more performance on the Tremor.

@Yeti, I think your wife has a Bronco and if that Bronco has the Bilstein you might tell me how they compare with the Bilstein setup on the F-150

She does. They are different but definitely similar in that they are a low cost digressive shock. For the bronco, it's all about the less compliant springs. For Mountain Yak (and the lack of springs) make it pretty nice. I'm not sure I'll move away from my 5165s long term other than replacing them from some damage I caused on my last trip.

If Bilstein offered the 8112 for us, I would be on that like a fat kid on an ice cream cone. I miss the thunk.

 

[Yeti]

Have you ran these my good sir? How was the ride quality and will they handle the extra size and weight of my new rubber do you figure? Thanks a million for the reply.

I ran the dev version of these. while these fit our trucks much better than what I had, I still contend that Eibach is the best bang for the buck for any vehicle. If they ever decide to move to the 2.5" and fit our truck correctly, I would jump on the ebach train

 

[bigredaggie]

Our stock shocks are
Extended length: 30.5"
Collapsed length: 18" maybe 18.1"

I'm guessing the bump stop will fully engage at max load before 18.1"

So Fox part number 98224828
Should be good for a progressive shock with a stock rear

Yeti you have been very consistent about the OEM rear shock extended length being 30.5”. Did you measure that eye to eye? I’m trying to reconcile Fox telling me it’s 29.5” “mounting location to mounting location”

 

[Yeti]

If I get time, I'll remeasure tomorrow. But I generally measure center eye to center eye

 

[Yeti]

Yeah, I think Fox needs to step away from the Bong. 30 19/32 center bolt to center bolt. So their 29.5 is likely the normal F150 shock.

 

[bigredaggie]

Yeah, I think Fox needs to step away from the Bong. 30 19/32 center bolt to center bolt. So their 29.5 is likely the normal F150 shock.

Thanks for double checking. Is that with the shock removed and fully extended or at full droop while on the truck?

Oh you said bolt to bolt, gotta be on the truck.

 

[traymore]

Thanks for double checking. Is that with the shock removed and fully extended or at full droop while on the truck?

Oh you said bolt to bolt, gotta be on the truck.

I don’t see how could this be a measurement with the shock on the truck. It would make no sense to measure on the truck as anything could influence that measurement (full or empty gas tank, weight in the bed…).

It must be fully extended and removed.