402A and Trailer Tow Package-Why?

[High_Country]

I can't say anything about how the build for the 2021s were, but for 2022 I can. If you did not add the trailer tow package your at 7000lbs tow. You must add it for any of the packages including 402a. The reason if you chose 402a and the tow package is only $210, is because that package comes with all the other requirements (cameras, tow tech package, ETC) needed to increase tow capacity with the exception of the increased cooling and a few other goodies. Bottom line, standard, mid or high you must add the tow package to max your towing capacity.

I love the conviction and confidence! What are you basing this off of? Seems all the literature folks have drummed up has been inconclusive. Would love to see something definitive.

 

[TremorWrangler]

I can't say anything about how the build for the 2021s were, but for 2022 I can. If you did not add the trailer tow package your at 7000lbs tow. You must add it for any of the packages including 402a. The reason if you chose 402a and the tow package is only $210, is because that package comes with all the other requirements (cameras, tow tech package, ETC) needed to increase tow capacity with the exception of the increased cooling and a few other goodies. Bottom line, standard, mid or high you must add the tow package to max your towing capacity.

This is why I said in my opinion I don’t think you need the trailer tow package especially on the 402A, not that I know for certain.

It seems that no one has yet to actually come up with what you get and don’t. What are the extra goodies that we get? And while I can’t guarantee it, I don’t think the radiator is any different with the trailer tow package and even if it was, the supposed 5% increase in cooling is NOT going to get you from 7,000 lbs to 10,900lbs.

The biggest things that come to mind would be axle size, gear ratios, additional cooler i.e. transmission cooler, hitch receiver, sway bar, leaf springs, all things of significant effect. The problem is that we get all of those things on the 402A short of a potentially different sway bar.

I would actually want to know if anything is different just to know if I have it or not.

 

[MustangBeast]

I somewhat agree with Martin that on 402a $210 may not buy the increased cooling and may already included in 402a. Other goodies are trailer pro assist and and the seven pin connector. A radiator upgrade alone does get you there either. Talking with some very knowledgeable Ford folks in the business, cooling upgrade was thing they talked about.

I also agree that the Ford build site could be much more informative and intuitive. Although Ford offers lots of options, they lack on ability to see and build the site through the lens of an end user.

For me, I look at like this. I built my truck with near everything I could put on it and carries an MSRP of 74k and change (not what I'm paying X-plan plus Ford customer incentive). $210.00 is around .003% of the total cost of the truck. Heck, I can spend that taking my family out to dinner one night and it all ends up down the toilet. It's going on the build! LOL

 

[Bannerman]

Where do you see this listed as a difference for the 2022 Tremor?

@RotorHead695 has a screenshot of the differences somewhere on this thread. Basically it's a little larger and has more fins per inch.

EDIT: Found it, @Troy actually posted this. Radiator core is different when you order the Trailer Tow Package.

 

[Danger]

@RotorHead695 has a screenshot of the differences somewhere on this thread. Basically it's a little larger and has more fins per inch.

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@RotorHead695 has a screenshot of the differences somewhere on this thread. Basically it's a little larger and has more fins per inch.

EDIT: Found it, @Troy actually posted this. Radiator core is different when you order the Trailer Tow Package.

Thanks. That picture is from 2021. Not saying it's not valid but I haven't seen any details on 2022s - specifically on Tremor options

There is also a Max Trailer Tow option on F-series trucks to also confuse things further if that's what "Heavy" means in the footnote (3) of your picture as the F-150 3.5 is available with Max Tow on other trims (non tremor) and would make sense as that includes a beefier bumper etc. I'm not certain that the footnote is relevant for the f150 Tremor and I couldn't find anything explaining what those meant. Curious what the final answer is

 

[dionb]

Took delivery of my Tremor yesterday and the dealer would not honor the new $880 lower window sticker... They had said that i agreed the the original MSRP when i put my deposit down. Kinda bummed about it but i did avoid the $14,995 dealer adjustment that they had on the other 2 that came off the tuck yesterday.

 

[DRvampTremor150]

I can't say anything about how the build for the 2021s were, but for 2022 I can. If you did not add the trailer tow package your at 7000lbs tow. You must add it for any of the packages including 402a. The reason if you chose 402a and the tow package is only $210, is because that package comes with all the other requirements (cameras, tow tech package, ETC) needed to increase tow capacity with the exception of the increased cooling and a few other goodies. Bottom line, standard, mid or high you must add the tow package to max your towing capacity.

I emailed Andre and Nathan from TFL Truck to see if they can contact Ford (since they can do a deep investigation with their platform) to shed some light on this topic. Let’s see if they have time to answer. When I ordered my Tremor I chose to go without the trailer tow package as I have seen some Tremors come with a ridiculous high rake where the back was +4” higher and had an additional leaf spring, due to the lack of information I opted for the tow technology to avoid that higher than usual take. I also hoped that the non trailer tow package would give me a softer more pliable off road presence better for off road purposes but not geared towards towing since it may have a softer rear suspension …. So my thought (I’m probably wrong) was to opt for that package. We shall see….. I’m also wondering if in the future I may or should need to tow to the max 9500 (safely without overheating) if I can take my non trailer tow package truck into Ford and have them upgrade it? Should be easy since it comes with most of the features already in the tow tech package.

 

[TxT]

I can't say anything about how the build for the 2021s were, but for 2022 I can. If you did not add the trailer tow package your at 7000lbs tow. You must add it for any of the packages including 402a. The reason if you chose 402a and the tow package is only $210, is because that package comes with all the other requirements (cameras, tow tech package, ETC) needed to increase tow capacity with the exception of the increased cooling and a few other goodies. Bottom line, standard, mid or high you must add the tow package to max your towing capacity.

All Tremors have a 10,900lb tow capacity, doesn't matter which package. Says so right on fords spec sheet for the 2022 Tremor.
Only thing different is the various technology options among the different packages.
There is no mention anywhere for 2022 Tremors about different leaf springs, different radiators, etc.

 

[Bannerman]

All Tremors have a 10,900lb tow capacity, doesn't matter which package. Says so right on fords spec sheet for the 2022 Tremor.
Only thing different is the various technology options among the different packages.
There is no mention anywhere for 2022 Tremors about different leaf springs, different radiators, etc.

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Also, anyone with a Torsen has a 4.10 gear in the front and 3.73 in the rear. Says so right on the spec sheet.

/s

 

[Mama Tried]

Also, anyone with a Torsen has a 4.10 gear in the front and 3.73 in the rear. Says so right on the spec sheet.

/s

I see what you did there.

 

[RotorHead695]

All Tremors have a 10,900lb tow capacity, doesn't matter which package. Says so right on fords spec sheet for the 2022 Tremor.
Only thing different is the various technology options among the different packages.
There is no mention anywhere for 2022 Tremors about different leaf springs, different radiators, etc.

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Go look at the footnote for 3.5 EB engines in the Ford Towing Guide for F150s and tell me if that doesn't conflict with your logic. This is the debate this whole thread is about. No one is able to find a clear answer, and it's super frustrating!

 

[roxbury29]

Took delivery of my Tremor yesterday and the dealer would not honor the new $880 lower window sticker... They had said that i agreed the the original MSRP when i put my deposit down. Kinda bummed about it but i did avoid the $14,995 dealer adjustment that they had on the other 2 that came off the tuck yesterday.

At least they honored what you agreed on, & I would be telling them all - next truck is not going to be there and all service/warranty work or not isn't going to their service dept. either. There are some shady dealers near me, and a few good ones. The dealer that is most fair gets 90% of my business. the others have all been 1 and done.

 

[roxbury29]

Also, anyone with a Torsen has a 4.10 gear in the front and 3.73 in the rear. Says so right on the spec sheet.

/s

They way FORD lists this is very confusing. truck has 3.73 front and rear. the Torsen is 4.10 ratio just like raptor ( not the front/rear gears ). This option should included be on ALL 402A Tremors, IMO.

 

[Bannerman]

They way FORD lists this is very confusing. truck has 3.73 front and rear. the Torsen is 4.10 ratio just like raptor ( not the front/rear gears ). This option should included be on ALL 402A Tremors, IMO.

Yes I am aware. I was poking fun of how @TxT was so confidently incorrect because he was going off the Ford Spec Sheets, which regularly has been shown to contradict itself.

 

[Cranbery]

Yes I am aware. I was poking fun of how @TxT was so confidently incorrect because he was going off the Ford Spec Sheets, which regularly has been shown to contradict itself.

Nothing of substance to add other than nice profile pic lmao

 

[Bannerman]

Nothing of substance to add other than nice profile pic lmao

Had to change my picture to what we are all waiting for.

 

[Kidastra]

2022, 402a, trailer tow included, Canada

 

[SoCalEd]

Ford reduced the price of the tow package to $210 since all it adds is an additional wiring harness connector.

So now I'm wondering if Ford is going to send refund checks out to those of us who bought it at $1095.

What is the extra wiring harness? The last I could make heads or tail of this, Tow Tech gave 4 and 7 pin connectors.

 

[High_Country]

What is the extra wiring harness? The last I could make heads or tail of this, Tow Tech gave 4 and 7 pin connectors.

Somewhere I think I've seen that the 4 and 7 pin connector was standard on ALL Tremors...but I can't go look it up right now. Maybe someone else can confirm.

 

[Kidastra]

The 4pin is gone, truck comes with a 7pin to 4pin adapter in the glove box, the 4pin old location was replaced with a 12 pin adapter, this adapter was used for the yaw box that was included but no longer is for the backup assist, it also could be used for a trailer mounted camera and tpms for the trailer, but not all trucks are compatible, and looking to see how many wires are in the connector either 2 or 8 will dictate what features you can use with the plug